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[W:165]Woman shot stealing Nazi flag

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A 26-year-old woman was shot multiple times after she was dared to steal a swastika flag from an Oklahoma man’s front yard.

Garfield County Sheriff’s deputies responded to a shots fired call at 3 a.m. Sunday. When they arrived they found the woman lying in a ditch.

“The female had multiple gunshot wounds, so my deputies rendered aid to her,” Jody Helm, Garfield County Sheriff said.

Helm said the woman was at a party across the street from the residence of 44-year-old Alexander John Feaster.

According to the Sheriff, she was dared to try and steal one of the two swastika flags that hang in Feaster’s front yard. So, she ran over to do it.

“On the way back someone hollered gun,” Helm said. “She dropped the flag at the end of the driveway and shots were fired.”

“Nobody wants to look at them as the problem,” said one neighbor who didn’t want their identity to be revealed.

One neighbor said the incident happened early in the morning.

“Started trying to figure out what was going on,” the neighbor said. “Wasn’t 100 percent sure if it was fireworks or gunshots, figured out pretty quick it was gunshots.”

Helm said Feaster used a rifle in the shooting. Feaster was taken into custody from his home with no incident. Helm said he immediately asked for a lawyer. Deputies decided to get a search warrant for his home.

“We recovered the suspect’s rifle and we got about fourteen guns out of there and some ammunition,” Helm said.

Woman shot multiple times while trying to steal Nazi flag from Oklahoma man’s yard | FOX 4 Kansas City WDAF-TV | News, Weather, Sports
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You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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Absolutely not. Get the asshole into a cage before he kills someone.
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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No, he was not right. She did not pose a physical threat. And, the flag was not worth much, so it wasnt even grand theft.

You gonna blow away the kids TP ing your house?


If it were me, I would refer to TRUMP retweeting folks holding guns on protesters, and asking folks with guns, to protect the confederates.
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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I can't answer your question without more information, such as...

Was she warned not to come onto the private property?

Was there any kind of conversation between the partiers or the woman, and the property owner?

Where does the Oklahoma law stand on the Castle Doctrine?
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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I would wait awhile because whenever the left wing media brings up these stories it’s usually always false.

Flying a Nazi flag isn’t great, and in my theocratic dictatorship the secret police would’ve hauled this guy away for some but in the secular US you can’t just go on people’s property and take their stuff
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?
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NO, of course not. :no:

He should have simply recorded the incident, called the police and filed a criminal charge.

Deadly force should typically be reserved for self-defense, and defense of others where absolutely necessary.
 
Captain Adverse said:
NO, of course not. :no:

He should have simply recorded the incident, called the police and filed a criminal charge.

Deadly force should typically be reserved for self-defense, and defense of others where absolutely necessary.
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I mean let’s not jump that far yet. If he’s in the wrong we can always condemn later, obviously no one should condone a swastika flag, but let’s remember the left frequently lies in their reporting. They reported Trayvon was just walking home with skittles and tea for example.

No one is under any obligation to virtue signal
 
Grand Mal said:
Absolutely not. Get the asshole into a cage before he kills someone.
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Get that bitch in a cage so she doesn't run roughshod over some else's rights. We do have a Constitution that protects all rights, even the ones we don't like, you know?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I mean let’s not jump that far yet. If he’s in the wrong we can always condemn later, obviously no one should condone a swastika flag, but let’s remember the left frequently lies in their reporting. They reported Trayvon was just walking home with skittles and tea for example.

No one is under any obligation to virtue signal
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What? "Virtue signaling?"

I am stating my standard position on the use of deadly force.

That would apply to pretty much any situation when one is considering the use of deadly force to counter someone else's actions.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I mean let’s not jump that far yet. If he’s in the wrong we can always condemn later, obviously no one should condone a swastika flag, but let’s remember the left frequently lies in their reporting. They reported Trayvon was just walking home with skittles and tea for example.

No one is under any obligation to virtue signal
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Factually, Martin was just returning to his father’s house with tea and skittles he had just bought at a nearby store.
 
smallvoice said:
Get that bitch in a cage so she doesn't run roughshod over some else's rights. We do have a Constitution that protects all rights, even the ones we don't like, you know?
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Is this you saying the asshole was right to shoot her?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Factually, Martin was just returning to his father’s house with tea and skittles he had just bought at a nearby store.
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Well and provoking altercations and beating people into the ground
 
Mycroft said:
I can't answer your question without more information, such as...

Was she warned not to come onto the private property?

Was there any kind of conversation between the partiers or the woman, and the property owner?

Where does the Oklahoma law stand on the Castle Doctrine?
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Regardless of any possible prior warnings from the homeowner, castle doctrine doesn’t permit shooting/killing someone who has stolen a flag off your porch. Especially when that person clearly presents no threat and is leaving the property.

The ****head shooter is going to spend time in prison, as he should.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Well and provoking altercations and beating people into the ground
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Zimmerman was the instigator, not Martin.

Had Zimmerman minded his own business, and not chased after a teenager who was, by all accounts, going about his own business, nothing would have happened.

Zimmerman was only saved from many years in prison because there was doubt about the struggle that ended with Martin dead and Zimmerman with a cut on his head and a few bruises.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Zimmerman was the instigator, not Martin.

Had Zimmerman minded his own business, and not chased after a teenager who was, by all accounts, going about his own business, nothing would have happened.

Zimmerman was only saved from many years in prison because there was doubt about the struggle that ended with Martin dead and Zimmerman with a cut on his head and a few bruises.
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Yeah, so you admit Z had injuries and Martin did not meaning the only possible chain of events is that Martin attacked Zimmerman.

Also Zimmerman did not follow Martin until after Martin returned to confront Zimmerman
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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Nononononononononononono!“On the way back someone hollered gun,” Helm said. “She dropped the flag at the end of the driveway and shots were fired.”
Someone needs to be found guilty on a homicide charge.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Regardless of any possible prior warnings from the homeowner, castle doctrine doesn’t permit shooting/killing someone who has stolen a flag off your porch. Especially when that person clearly presents no threat and is leaving the property.

The ****head shooter is going to spend time in prison, as he should.
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shrug...

Maybe he will...maybe he won't.

Since I don't have enough information, I have no opinion.
 
Most of the time, the police won't haul you away if they think you were in the right.
 
Trump has immediately appointed him head of the ATF
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah, so you admit Z had injuries and Martin did not meaning the only possible chain of events is that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
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There is no admitting to be done. The facts are the facts.

And as for your sick and outrageous comment that Martin had no injuries, I invite you to read the coroner’s report of the body of Trayvon Martin’s body.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/martin.autopsy.pdf

EMNofSeattle said:
Also Zimmerman did not follow Martin until after Martin returned to confront Zimmerman
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You are either lying here ^^, or don’t know what you’re talking about (or both).

Zimmerman following Martin was the start of the deadly encounter. Not only did Zimmerman follow Martin, he chased after Martin. All recorded while Zimmerman was on his phone with the police department.
YouTube
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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No. Not justified to kill a person over a stupid flag. His life wasn’t in danger
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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I think there are a few points

Was the guy right? I don’t think many would say he was right.

Did he break any laws? Not sure what the laws in his locality are

If he did would he be convicted? Depends on the defense strategy but I can see how a good lawyer play up a rowdy party across the street and someone coming on your property probably wasted an possible threat and getting sympathy.

If more people would respect others property no matter how much they disagree with it people would live longer healthier lives
 
swing_voter said:
You think the shooter was in the right?

If that was an AR15, it would blown big chunks out of her.
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Charge the Nazi with felonious assault. You can't shoot people for running away with your Nazi flag.

I cannot believe I actually needed to say that. :doh
 
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