It is defensive in that it is used to defend against an assaultive person.
No, a shield would be a good example of a tool used to defend with
A gun is used to
attack a person
assaulting you
A gun owner on here criticized the use of "Assault type weapons", saying that
ALL guns can be used to "assault" someone with
You can't have it
BOTH ways
The attitude is that a person can use a reasonable amount of force in response to an assault. And if a reasonable person would be in fear of death or serious physical injury based on the totality of circumstances, then they are justified in using deadly force. This same standard applies to police, with a little extra leeway given due to the fact that cops aren't supposed to be running away from a criminal, but instead attempting to apprehend them. If you want a nation full of police that hide behind their cruisers while people are being murdered, by all means continue with your BS about "train them to not get hit on the head."
1. A cop can get away with shooting someone just on his word that he feared for his life (unless of course there is evidence to the contrary - thankfully cell phone video is becoming more common to contradict and convict murderous cops)
2. In one year, US police killed
1,536 people while Britain (with a population of about 60 million) killed just
3.
British police don't hide behind their cars either, they generally don't kill people and they don't have Qualified Immunity to hide behind either
Are you serious saying Americans have poorer mental health and/or much lower drug use ?
Or is it that US police are trigger happy, homicidal, psychopaths ?
With all the talk of defunding police, I'm surprised someone like you want there to be so many of them that two dozen can respond in moments to an armed and violent subject anywhere in the country.
Of course, and if a police officer can't arrest a suspect without killing him/her, he.she calls for back up
Disbanding the multitude of small town PD's that harbor small town/small minded racist homophones, and creating state wide police services, with allow for a greater pool of officers to be available
There are many who say the British police are hugely underfunded and woefully understaffed yet still they can put men on the ground in the numbers required
Why can't the USA, it's not rocket science
I think it is a reasonable thing. There is a difference.
And that's probably why US police are so homicidal, because they think killing is "reasonable"
I think the attitude of British is the reasonable course
Yup, shooting someone who is advancing on you with a knife is literally the same thing as loading naked starving Jews into showers to be gassed.
Yes, both constitute murder IMO
Which means it's highly likely the officer would have been hacked up pretty severely. Maybe killed.
Really
And does this happen in the UK
We know they rarely kill people so what happens in your estimation ?
Correct. Just like the baton. Yet, just like the baton, a taser can be disabling. We already had this conversation.
Yet when a
fleeing suspect shoots a taser wildly behind him, a police officer can and will use this to claim he thought his
life was a risk ?
Oh not at all. but I'm not interested in spending lots of time responding thoughtfully and honestly to those who won't respond in kind.
No one cares about you guys petty little feud. Take it to the basement, or let it go. If you guys continue in this thread, or any other upstairs thread I see, it will be points and thread bans. Enough is enough.
