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80% receivers/home made firearms or if you prefer, ghost guns.

Like the AK 47s made in some guys garage or out building in Afghanistan without the "advanced machinery"?

Well, he "somehow thinks." Which is puzzling given there has been a lot of evidence posted to the contrary of the notion that advanced machinery is required.
 
I wonder if he would pee his pants if he knew how easy a basic submachine gun (Sten) is to make. Automatic which is easier then semi.

Go for it. Dont get caught
 
I wonder if he would pee his pants if he knew how easy a basic submachine gun (Sten) is to make. Automatic which is easier then semi.

Yep, 'cause firing from an open bolt is about as simple as it gets. An M3A1 doesn't even have a cocking handle. It has a hole to stick your finger in the bolt to **** it. A notch on the bolt engages with a very simple trigger/sear mechanism. The whole thing is basically a piece of pipe sized to fit a chunk of metal and a barrel screwed on the end of the pipe.
 
Like the AK 47s made in some guys garage or out building in Afghanistan without the "advanced machinery"?

Well, to those unfamiliar with tools, a shovel might be "advanced machinery". And beyond comprehension what a drill press is for.
 
And that's about the way the ball bounces.

I don't see any pictures of an Assault Rifle - 15


Like the AK 47s made in some guys garage or out building in Afghanistan without the "advanced machinery"?

Yes, like those.


Got plans on selling it? Then you're good.

So is it or is it not illegal to own a gun with no serial number on it ?
 
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Yes, like those.




So is it or is it not illegal to own a gun with no serial number on it ?

I’m probably going to regret asking this, but what is an Assault Rifle-15?
 
I don't see any pictures of an Assault Rifle - 15




Yes, like those.




So is it or is it not illegal to own a gun with no serial number on it ?

The answer is: Not necessarily.

False dilemma questions are really stupid.
 
So is it or is it not illegal to own a gun with no serial number on it ?

Interesting question, and I didn't know the answer. Seems it's legal at the federal level, but illegal in a few states:

wikipedia said:
United States federal law

Under U.S. federal law making and owning a ghost gun is allowed, assuming that no other impediments exist.[1] Some U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) officials characterize this as a loophole.[11] The U.S. State Department has sued to take computer files to control 3D-printers off the internet under the grounds their publication constituted export of a munition under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations.[16] With a legal case pending United States Supreme Court action,[18][19] Defense Distributed removed the files, but the censored blueprints remain accessible via The Pirate Bay's "Physibles" section and other sites.[20][21] The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reported in 2013 that it had seized hundreds of ghost guns, including a machine gun,[10] and unregistered silencers.[8] The FBI does not generally track the use of homemade firearms.[13] ATF agents say that ghost guns are sold at a US$1,000 premium due to being untraceable.[22] According to the ATF there was a run on the sales of assault rifles following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, due to gun enthusiasts' fear of their being banned. Many people were selling ghost guns, illegally,[8]

In a 2014 raid of Ares Armor, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms confiscated 6,000 receiver blanks which they said were too close to finished units.[11] After a lawsuit, all but 18 of the seized receivers were returned and placed for sale to purchasers in 47 states.[23] In a similar case, EG Armory of California was raided, but agreed to forfeit 3800 lower receivers without admission of any wrongdoing.[23] In Sacramento the owner of C&G Tool Inc. pled guilty to illegal manufacture of firearms. Prosecutors argued that he "advertised his shop as a place where people could make guns in 20 minutes by pressing a few buttons on a computerized machine", rejecting his position that buyers created their own guns.[10]

Ghost gun - Wikipedia

So the feds hate the entire idea of ghost guns, but the good news doesn't stop there. The technology for both small CNC mills and 3d printing is rapidly improving and will continue to get better and cheaper with each passing year. The cat is already out of the proverbial bag and it ain't goin back in.

This is proper way to defeat tyrannical laws. Not by relying on court decisions or constitutions, but by simply making them impossible to enforce, like the way encryption makes it impossible for the state to control communications.
 
Originally Posted by Rich2018
Something can't be required in "most" cases, if in "many" cases it is not

QED: You dismissed your own argument

Lie if you need to, you're not getting your sword back

You lost
Now don't add dishonesty to your defeat

Own it.

I think you're trying to have an AH HA moment.
Do you think he may have chosen a wrong word? Or maybe you misconstrued his quote ? Such as "making guns at home is totally legal. Leaving off a serial number is not, most of the time..." So what I see is most of the time what? Maybe unless it's to sell, or is a Class 3/Title 2 weapon then yes in those cases a serial number is required. Which an SBR and SBS fall under.
 
Every time a firearm is registered where do you think that money goes? Not the store.

Everytime you pay your passport fees....where do you think that money goes?
 
Interesting question, and I didn't know the answer. Seems it's legal at the federal level, but illegal in a few states:



So the feds hate the entire idea of ghost guns, but the good news doesn't stop there. The technology for both small CNC mills and 3d printing is rapidly improving and will continue to get better and cheaper with each passing year. The cat is already out of the proverbial bag and it ain't goin back in.

This is proper way to defeat tyrannical laws. Not by relying on court decisions or constitutions, but by simply making them impossible to enforce, like the way encryption makes it impossible for the state to control communications.

Fledermaus insists it is not illegal to own a gun with no serial number

It is if it once had one and you removed it too.
 
I think you're trying to have an AH HA moment.
Do you think he may have chosen a wrong word? Or maybe you misconstrued his quote ? Such as "making guns at home is totally legal. Leaving off a serial number is not, most of the time..." So what I see is most of the time what? Maybe unless it's to sell, or is a Class 3/Title 2 weapon then yes in those cases a serial number is required. Which an SBR and SBS fall under.

I think he was talking in almost an absolute manner then saw he may be wrong and tried to move to goal posts without admitting any error.
 
Fledermaus insists it is not illegal to own a gun with no serial number

It is if it once had one and you removed it too.

How courageous to not quote what you claim he said.
 
I think you're trying to have an AH HA moment.
Do you think he may have chosen a wrong word? Or maybe you misconstrued his quote ? Such as "making guns at home is totally legal. Leaving off a serial number is not, most of the time..." So what I see is most of the time what? Maybe unless it's to sell, or is a Class 3/Title 2 weapon then yes in those cases a serial number is required. Which an SBR and SBS fall under.

Actually Rich is just plain wrong. Most refers to the greater part. Many is a large but subjective number. Something can be required in most cases even if there are many cases it is not.
Standby for another tortured private definition from him though.
 
I'm better with grammar than you are

So you're not good with truth either. Please point to the post where I said it was illegal
A desperate straw man argument from you - intentional dishonesty actually.

You'd rather lie than explain how something can't be required in "most" cases, if in "many" cases it is not



A sad attempt at defection.

In your haste to dig a hole you're not even keeping your own argument straight. Using the negative in both comparitives.
 
Well, he "somehow thinks." Which is puzzling given there has been a lot of evidence posted to the contrary of the notion that advanced machinery is required.

I wonder if he had an all expense paid trip to sit in on such an endeavor he would? Probably not, because seeing is believing.
 
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