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How To Strengthen The Second Amendment

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Here is a video on how to strengthen the Second Amendment, the guy makes some really good points.
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Youtube SPAM.
 
Maybe we could get a t-shirt with a symbol of a mongoose taking on that damn snake ?
 
The guy makes good points-such as don't go around looking like a gunshop Ninja.

Get involved.

Try to reach people in the middle.

What the guy said is pretty even keeled and hardly bombastic far right stuff.
 
Wayne Jr said:
How to take 30 seconds of content stretch it into over 7 minutes....
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True, economy of words is not that fellow's strong point. But it was fairly moderate stuff
 
Rich2018 said:
How gun control worked in Australia:


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Has the number of murders drastically dropped since the gun ban? Heck how many mass murders(four or more killed in a single incident by the mass murderer) did Australia have 24 years before and after the ban? I ask because if the murderers didn't drastically drop and nor did the mass murders then the ban did nothing,except change the weapon used to commit murder. Will the victim's families find any solace in the fact their loved one was murdered with a baseball bat or knife instead of a gun? Citing countries that already have low homicide rates before their bans with no real change afterwards doesn't prove gun control works except in changing the weapon used is the murder.
 
jamesrage said:
Has the number of murders drastically dropped since the gun ban?
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The number of mass shootings have and as with the UK, it was a mass shooting that prompted gun control legislation.


Did you watch the video ?
 
Rich2018 said:
The number of mass shootings have and as with the UK, it was a mass shooting that prompted gun control legislation.


Did you watch the video ?
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mass shootings were very rare in England, so claiming the hysterical reaction to Dunblane prevented additional mass shootings is dubious-at best
 
Rich2018 said:
The number of mass shootings have and as with the UK, it was a mass shooting that prompted gun control legislation.


Did you watch the video ?
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The number of mass shootings was sparse before the ban and the number of mass shootings after the ban didn't change much. So claiming gun control worked in those countries would be like putting a speed bump in a neighborhood that already has no speeding problems and then claiming the speed bumps worked. This is why its idiotic to tout UK and Australia as proof gun bans worked when they never really had a problem with homicides to begin with.
 
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TurtleDude said:
mass shootings were very rare in England...
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Due to a lack of guns

Crime wasn't and isn't though


....so claiming the hysterical reaction to Dunblane prevented additional mass shootings is dubious-at best
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Why ?

Why are the British less culpable of mass shootings than Americans


What does American society have that makes it more susceptible to mass shootings ?
 
jamesrage said:
The number of mass shootings was sparse before the ban ...
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And why do you think that might be ?

Surely it's not because the British are less prone to crime ?


....so claiming gun control worked in those countries would be like putting a speed bump in a neighborhood that already has no speeding problems and then claiming the speed bumps worked. This is why its idiotic to tout UK and Australia as proof gun bans worked when they never really had a problem with homicides to begin with.
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Why ?

To use your analogy of speeding, if one country didn't possess ownership of fast vehicles and so had less speeding
What might a country with a high proportion of fast vehicles in private ownership and consequently a high number of cases of speeding, lean from the first country ?

Saying the USA has nothing to lean from peer countries, especially the UK is idiotic is stupid.



I'll ask you the same question as above also:

What does American society have that makes it more susceptible to mass shootings ?
 
Rich2018 said:
And why do you think that might be ?

Surely it's not because the British are less prone to crime ?




Why ?

To use your analogy of speeding, if one country didn't possess ownership of fast vehicles and so had less speeding
What might a country with a high proportion of fast vehicles in private ownership and consequently a high number of cases of speeding, lean from the first country ?

Saying the USA has nothing to lean from peer countries, especially the UK is idiotic is stupid.



I'll ask you the same question as above also:

What does American society have that makes it more susceptible to mass shootings ?
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Again claiming gun control works when a country that had very little HOMICIDES before and after their gun ban is absurd.All those countries did was change the murder weapon being used by both regular murderers and mass murderers.
 
jamesrage said:
Again claiming gun control works when a country that had very little HOMICIDES before and after their gun ban is absurd....
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Except that the UK has a lot of homicides

It just doesn't have many mass shootings

So answer the question:

"What does American society have that makes it more susceptible to mass shootings ?"


All those countries did was change the murder weapon being used by both regular murderers and mass murderers.
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Where's your evidence of that ?
 
It's true tho. Knife crimes in England were at a record high last year.
Didn't they even try to ban knives at one point?

Not to mention the rise in acid attacks in England and other parts of Europe. And considering Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, they should probably consider arming themselves. I believe the increase in violent crime is due to the demographic changes. The clash of opposing cultures and customs.
 
FormerAnCap said:
It's true tho. Knife crimes in England were at a record high last year.
Didn't they even try to ban knives at one point?
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You can't ban knives par se, but in the UK, carrying one is an offense unless you can demonstrate a valid reason to do so

I'm not totally sure but I do think that some knives are banned from sale

Not to mention the rise in acid attacks in England and other parts of Europe. And considering Sweden is now the rape capitol of Europe, they should probably consider arming themselves....
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So women are raped at gun point rather than knife point ?

So in addition to rapes, Sweden also sees a rise in shootings and mass shootings

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why Sweden won't be allowing guns to flood society any time soon


I believe the increase in violent crime is due to the demographic changes. The clash of opposing cultures and customs.
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In Sweden the rise is blamed on immigration

Knife crime is a product of social trends regarding violent crime. Guns can only make it worse.
 
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