For Abuse Victims, Life Just Got Harder

RF667799 · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
That squirming is not very creative.

Probably because it isn't "squirming". I'm just continuing to call attention to how insubstantial are your posts. You're just continuing to demonstrate that. Since you have twice now posted with nothing but the same unsupported characterization of me personally, creativity on your part seems to be somewhat lacking.

Try harder.

CaughtInThe · Apr 6, 2020

RF667799 said:
Has every bit the resurrection effect of your typical posts.

my posts are usually about the wives/girlfriends who are gunned down by their husbands/boyfriends/exes.

i only wish there was some resurrection effect.

RF667799 · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
my posts are usually about the wives/girlfriends who are gunned down by their husbands/boyfriends/exes.

i only wish there was some resurrection effect.

Well there isn't, and hopefully you recognize that despite that being your criticism of the other post.

Your posts are "about" the victims in only the loosest sense. More accurately, they are a trivial bit of picture posting unaccompanied by substance. Indeed, usually followed up with a refusal to provide any substance.

Lursa · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
You're victim blaming.

Me; I blame men with guns.

See how that works?

And you still didnt answer my questions.

I'm not blaming the victims. But if they dont want to continue to be victims, they can take action.

Now:

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest?

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

Bullseye said:
And what do you propose to do about it?

I propose getting more women into anger management programs before their abuse turns deadly.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
Ban abusive morons from acquiring guns. Post 36 paints a nice profile of those who are likely to fall in that category.

Indeed.

Recognizing you have a problem can be the first step toward solving it.

:thumbs:

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
gunned down by their husbands/estranged husbands in the last 4 days...

42yo, Arizona...

Man shoots, kills estranged wife at Gilbert apartment complex, police say | Arizona News | azfamily.com

59yo, Illinois...

Lockport Township murder-suicide leaves Cheryl Schriefer, Patrick Jesernik dead - Chicago Sun-Times

36yo, Maryland...

Man Kills Wife, 18-Year-Old In Mt. Airy Shooting | WBAL NewsRadio 1090/FM 101.5

48yo, Oklahoma...

Bethany Police Investigate After Apparent Murder-Suicide Leaves 3 Dead, 1 Injured - News 9

Liberals trot women out as victims, but in reality, women commit the majority of abuse.

Just another case where liberals twist facts to suit their anti-constitutional aims.

:hm

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

Rich2018 said:
No, the studies show that having a gun in the home, results in a greater likelihood of you being shot than if you didn't buy a gun.

Correct.

While I strongly support the 2nd, families should be aware of this reality.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
more women gunned down by husbands/estranged husbands/boyfriends recently...

32yo, Oklahoma...

54yo, Illinois...

62yo, Florida...

29yo, WVa...

45yo, Penn...

More liberal attempts to obscure the reality that women commit the majority of domestic abuse.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
Guns take lives. They do not save them.

Coincides with aging Boomers & our ruthless refusal as a society to permit people to end their lives safely and humanely.

IOW, like the WILDY dubious "mass shooting" claims - meaningless.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

TurtleDude said:
any proof of your claims? what are the underlying facts?

The primary fact liberals constantly avoid is that women commit the majority of domestic abuse.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

jaeger19 said:
And you think that the best way to protect them.. is to take away my guns... rather than use the resources to take away my guns... to say remove the abuser from the household.. or to provide the necessary public support so the victims can leave the abusive situation?

Just how absurd are you?

Those facts speak for themselves on a daily basis.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
these wives and girlfriends would literally have to be armed 24/7 in their own homes to protect themselves against a husband/boyfriend that has decided to gun them down.

no sleep. gun the the shower. no turning their backs.

and i never even post the pics of the underage victims (the children that the husbands/boyfriends/exes gun down as they are gunning down their wives/girlfriends/exes). it's heartbreaking to see their faces but some of us are determined to shine a light on this issue until every American at least knows it's happening (they mostly just block it out). well, until it's their family. then it's a big deal suddenly.

ps: did you notice his "litany of victims" comment. very telling, no?

If women were armed 24/7, the majority abuse committed by women would turn even more deadly.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
The poster has made similar dismissive comments about victims of sexual assault.

And yet liberals are lining up to vote for child-groping rapist Joe Biden.

:shrug:

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

Lursa said:
It is a problem...for anyone that wants to restrict legal gun ownership to citizens.

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest? Me? I suggest abused partners LEAVE. You cannot control guns or abuser's actions. You can choose your own actions. I'm not saying it's easy...but it's the ONLY solution. Abusers dont change. If you stay...you are the enabler and if you have kids, you are endangering them and teaching them a cycle of violence and that it's acceptable to stay and take it.

Often the victims of abusers cannot leave.

It's just not practical.

Is the husband of an abusive wife to leave knowing she may turn her wrath on the children?

If she hasn't done so already?

Abusive individuals (the majority of whom are women) have many ways to destroy the lives of their targets.

3leftsdoo · Apr 6, 2020

Fledermaus said:
Blaming the gun for the death is ignorant. Murderous bastards seem to find a way.

But it is nice to know women killed by other means don't matter as much to you.

The liberal agenda is to destroy the Constitution.

They will do anything to achieve this goal, including twisting facts & outright lying.

A good example of liberal behavior is the #MeToo movement.

Its sole purpose was to attack Trump.

When Biden was accused of sexual assault, this organization refused to aid the victim.

That's liberals.

They don't care about domestic abuse or sexual violence EXCEPT as tools to achieve their twisted aims.

Lursa · Apr 6, 2020

3leftsdoo said:
Often the victims of abusers cannot leave.

It's just not practical.

Is the husband of an abusive wife to leave knowing she may turn her wrath on the children?

If she hasn't done so already?

Abusive individuals (the majority of whom are women) have many ways to destroy the lives of their targets.

It has nothing to do with practical. It's life or death. And it's the choice of the one being abused. And the kids go with the one being abused. There are courts, couselors, and shelters for this.

Nobody said it's easy or practical...but unless the abused decides to use lethal force (appropriately) in self defense, then it's the ONLY option.

calamity · Apr 6, 2020

Lursa said:
And you still didnt answer my questions.

I'm not blaming the victims. But if they dont want to continue to be victims, they can take action.

Now:

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest?

“I'm not blaming the victims. But ...”

That is blaming the victims.

Lursa · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
“I'm not blaming the victims. But ...”

That is blaming the victims.

I'm not blaming the victims.

Now, instead of trying to divert...here, how will you protect the victims?

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest?

Fledermaus · Apr 6, 2020

CaughtInThe said:
That post definitely brought the wives/girlfriends that were gunned down back to life.

Let the victim's families know.

Hey, look. A stupid statement.

Now... Have you evidence any of the women you presented would be alive today if a gun were not available?

calamity · Apr 6, 2020

Fledermaus said:
Hey, look. A stupid statement.

Now... Have you evidence any of the women you presented would be alive today if a gun were not available?

Fact remains they were shot to death. Why dodge that bullet, Fled?

calamity · Apr 6, 2020

Lursa said:
I'm not blaming the victims.

Now, instead of trying to divert...here, how will you protect the victims?

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest?

“I'm not blaming the victims. But ...”

The "but" speaks for itself. So, yes. You are blaming the victims.

Lursa · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
“I'm not blaming the victims. But ...”

The "but" speaks for itself. So, yes. You are blaming the victims.

There's no 'but.' It's a statement of fact which you cannot refute.

And you continue to prove it because you are using it to avoid answering this:

Because if they're bought legally...what new laws are going to stop them? Just like for suicide, it only takes one gun and really, one bullet.

And the 2A ensures that any non-prohibited person can OWN a gun at its very most basic.

So...what do you suggest?

Stop being a moral coward. Where is/are your solution(s)?

CaughtInThe · Apr 6, 2020

RF667799 said:
Well there isn't, and hopefully you recognize that despite that being your criticism of the other post.

Your posts are "about" the victims in only the loosest sense. More accurately, they are a trivial bit of picture posting unaccompanied by substance. Indeed, usually followed up with a refusal to provide any substance.

So now showing these women who are gunned down is loony?

Wow. I didn't think I would get such an honest response.

Fledermaus · Apr 6, 2020

calamity said:
Fact remains they were shot to death. Why dodge that bullet, Fled?

The fact is no one knows if they would be alive today if there wasn't a gun available. Are the women strangled by their husbands less dead?

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