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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Tlrmln View Post
    You seem to think that a person can't be for more gun control, and want to own a gun at the same time.
    And that person/s that want more gun control, then more and more while retaining their shotgun or Grandads old deer rifle will consistently vote (FUDDS) (D). Hell I need a car, but it fry's my ass every time they up the fee's. But that privileged dog is for another fight.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    I don't want it for me or other non-gun owners.

    I want to make the gun suppliers/manufacturers pay.

    We get it, you want to stick it to gun manufacturers. You don't care about saftey or saving lives you just want to screw over an industry you don't like. It's good to know your plan will never be put in place.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    =Rich2018;1071619778]I don't want it for me or other non-gun owners.
    You don't want it for you or other non gun owners? Who exactly do you want it for? I think agenda and attrition are synonymous here.
    I want to make the gun suppliers/manufacturers pay.
    So then you want the suppliers/manufacturers to pay for criminal acts. Most legal firearm owners aren't out committing crimes.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillfolks View Post
    We get it, you want to stick it to gun manufacturers.
    And suppliers

    The same way that I want tobacco companies exposed to litigation


    You don't care about saftey or saving lives...
    Explain


    Ultimately I want to ban guns, but that will take a long time, be very difficult or unlikely to be acheived and require a repeal of the 2nd amendment


    What have I said that suggest no motivation for safety or saving lives ?


    Why do you think a 12 month money-back guarantee for all firearms sales would cause the arms industry so much hardship

    Do you think that more than a handful of gun buyers will express buyer's remorse and ask for their money back


    If there's a flood of such people, however, surely that's all the more reason to have such a law ?

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by zsu2357 View Post
    You don't want it for you or other non gun owners? Who exactly do you want it for?
    People who've bought guns or will buy guns


    So then you want the suppliers/manufacturers to pay for criminal acts...
    Nope

    Just for the guns of new gun owners who've changed their minds

    DebateChallege seems to think that would be a very small number

    What do you think ?

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    The key to addressing an irrational fear is to face that fear. The fact that a number of people are seeing past the "guns are evil" propaganda is good. The more people use guns, the more people that will realize that guns are only a tool and not the cause of mass murders. The more people that understand that the fear is unfounded, the more people who can help those with irrational fears overcome them.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    And suppliers

    The same way that I want tobacco companies exposed to litigation




    Explain


    Ultimately I want to ban guns, but that will take a long time, be very difficult or unlikely to be acheived and require a repeal of the 2nd amendment


    What have I said that suggest no motivation for safety or saving lives ?


    Why do you think a 12 month money-back guarantee for all firearms sales would cause the arms industry so much hardship

    Do you think that more than a handful of gun buyers will express buyer's remorse and ask for their money back


    If there's a flood of such people, however, surely that's all the more reason to have such a law ?
    Why do you think a plan designed to increase sales will reduce the number of guns?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Shotguns are not portable firearms

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    And suppliers

    The same way that I want tobacco companies exposed to litigation




    Explain


    Ultimately I want to ban guns, but that will take a long time, be very difficult or unlikely to be acheived and require a repeal of the 2nd amendment
    You talk a good talk and pretend to care about saftey and saving lives but in the end you're unwilling to help pay for a program that would result in reducing guns in circulation instead supporring one that does nothing to reduce guns in favor of penalizing an industry.

    Why do you think a 12 month money-back guarantee for all firearms sales would cause the arms industry so much hardship
    This has already been explained to you by multiple posters. If you ignored them the first time re-read the thread for your answer.
    Do you think that more than a handful of gun buyers will express buyer's remorse and ask for their money back
    I think the program you are purpoasing would result in more people doing so. Criminals would love the program. Buy a gun with a straw buyer, use it in a few crimes, have the gun returned for full refund and as a addes benefit making it harder for law enforcement to track that gun.

    If there's a flood of such people, however, surely that's all the more reason to have such a law ?
    There ahould be a flood of people requeatung such a law before anything is considered and I've seen no evidence this is a problem. You're creating a problem that doeant exist in order to push punitive solutions.
    Thankfully your purposels are not going to happen and I hope you meet resistance and challenges at every turn so none of them ever are taken even remotely serious.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Neither should anyone
    Or just aren't troubled by gangs or marauding ninja's out to steal my freshly purchased toilet roll
    And especially times like these when we're much after as crime has fallen between 1/5th and 1/4th according to some stats
    Against those packs of marauding ninjas
    Perish the thought
    May be you need to invest in a light tank to add additional security...?
    Oh, look, a wanna be petty tyrant wants to prohibit anyone from owning a gun. Good thing I live in a country that respects my God given rights.

    And it's easy to feel secure sitting back in that lazy boy while other people keep you safe. Some people don't have it sooooo easy.

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    Re: Proper Treatment Of Those Who Switch Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    Oh, look, a wanna be petty tyrant wants to prohibit anyone from owning a gun. Good thing I live in a country that respects my God given rights.

    And it's easy to feel secure sitting back in that lazy boy while other people keep you safe. Some people don't have it sooooo easy.
    how does that wonderful quote from George Orwell go? People sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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