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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    ONLY 16 more years huh? So you think times have changed?
    The proof is in the report I cited. Sorry, but facts is facts.

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    And it's true, they did
    Do you mean somebody said in the same way as when Trump says “someone said”, or that you have actual proof?
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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    The proof is in the report I cited. Sorry, but facts is facts.
    You don't sound very sorry


    Do you mean somebody said in the same way as when Trump says “someone said”, or that you have actual proof?

    I posted the actual proof of links stating that straw man purchases are the #1 sourse of guns for criminals


    I'm not sure about where criminals get guns, and I'm skeptical of surveys on them (like a phone survey on how many sexual partners you've had, a British survey claimed men multiply by 10, whereas women usually divide by 10)


    Which is why I sated that it is claimed that it is so, not necessarily is so.


    Gifford's Law Center still states that straw man sales are the #1 source of illegal guns:


    Trafficking & Straw Purchasing | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    You don't sound very sorry

    I posted the actual proof of links stating that straw man purchases are the #1 sourse of guns for criminals

    I'm not sure about where criminals get guns, and I'm skeptical of surveys on them (like a phone survey on how many sexual partners you've had, a British survey claimed men multiply by 10, whereas women usually divide by 10)

    Which is why I sated that it is claimed that it is so, not necessarily is so.

    Gifford's Law Center still states that straw man sales are the #1 source of illegal guns:

    Trafficking & Straw Purchasing | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
    I am sorry. Sorry that you’re having such a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the data you’re providing is outdated.

    Did you even read your own reference? In the article, it explicitly states “Although the majority of trafficking investigations involve straw purchases, corrupt retail gun dealers account for a higher volume of guns diverted into the illegal market than any other single trafficking channel. And the study used as the reference for that assertion was published in 2000.

    Next time, before you post, pay closer attention to the links (little red numbers in this case) provided to support the assertion/statistic.

    You’re welcome.
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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    I am sorry...
    You will be

    There, that's my two most humorous comebacks to a claim of being sorry


    Sorry that you’re having such a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the data you’re providing is outdated...
    So what if it is ?

    Why would I have a harder time than you in coming to grips with the data ?

    Did you even read your own reference? In the article, it explicitly states “Although the majority of trafficking investigations involve straw purchases, corrupt retail gun dealers account for a higher volume of guns diverted into the illegal market than any other single trafficking channel....
    So what ?


    Next time, before you post, pay closer attention to the links..
    Why ?


    Does not the link specifically state:

    "Straw purchasing—in which a purchaser is actually buying a gun on behalf of someone else—is the most common channel identified in trafficking investigations" ???


    Guess you didn't read that bit.

    Either way, I remain skeptical of data drawn from a poll of convicts.



    You're also welcome.

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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Do you think gun stores are essential?

    Personally, I don't see a problem with them closing for a few weeks if they're attracting big crowds of people.

    Sheriffs have a lot of weird powers that are grandfathered in from the old days, drafting people for posses being one.
    Seems the LA Sheriff Department has reversed course....so, gun shops will not close.

    LA County Sheriff Reverses Decision on Closing Gun Shops – NBC Los Angeles

    LA sheriff reverses course, lets gun stores stay open

    L.A. County sheriff reverses decision on gun shop closures [Video]
    Deplorable Scum

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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Does not the link specifically state:

    "Straw purchasing—in which a purchaser is actually buying a gun on behalf of someone else—is the most common channel identified in trafficking investigations" ???
    “Most common channel identified in trafficking investigations”. Not at all the same as “corrupt retail gun dealers account for a higher volume of guns diverted into the illegal market than any other single trafficking channel.”

    Your reference speaks to most common investigations.

    Mine refers to the most common way firearms get into the hands of criminals.

    Can you tell the difference between these two statements?

    Oh, and let’s not forget, your entire reference was published 20 years ago.
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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    [QUOTE=RaleBulgarian;1071576010]“Most common channel identified in trafficking investigations”. Not at all the same as “corrupt retail gun dealers account for a higher volume of guns diverted into the illegal market than any other single trafficking channel.”

    So that would mean that corrupt gun dealers sales to criminals is now the #1 source of guns for criminals, yes ?

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    Re: Los Angeles Sheriff closes gun stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    So that would mean that corrupt gun dealers sales to criminals is now the #1 source of guns for criminals, yes ?
    Not now. 20 years ago.
    "What he did was not 'perfect.' No, it was a flagrant assault on our electoral rights, our national security interests, and our fundamental values. Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one's oath of office that I can imagine," Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT)

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