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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Crime would go up dramatically
    Why do you think that?

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidenrules29 View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Because people who would normally fight would shoot each other

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidenrules29 View Post
    You are correct and in my scenario the CCW holders are merely defending themselves not being "crime fighters"
    I agree. I like to drag this out from time to time. Counterpoint: A rape survivor argues why we need guns on campus | MSNBC
    She didn't have the chance. Two other women raped by him and then a third murdered. To bad she wasn't allowed to carry huh?

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    America has more guns per capita than any other country on earth, by far, yet is one of the most dangerous first world nations. Sprinkling more guns into a society doesn't magically make it safer, otherwise the US would have one if the lowest violent crime rates instead of one of the highest.
    For being the “most dangerous first world nation”, a lot of people from all over the world want to come here.
    Where is the danger in the US? It’s the cities where crime is committed by Illegal guns.

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Because people who would normally fight would shoot each other
    I dont think so. In my scenario the CCW applicants are thoroughly vetted. Including a comprehensive background check, their bosses , family members, and neighbors interviewed and they have to pass a psych interview. There would also be 20 hours of training ing, both classroom and live fire scenarios where CCW applicants would be trained on the different situations where deadly force could or couldn't be used. The fact is that right now the total amount of CCW holders in the U.S. do NOT kill very many people instead of just "fighting". I've tried to explain that to another poster on this and other threads.

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidenrules29 View Post
    I dont think so. In my scenario the CCW applicants are thoroughly vetted. Including a comprehensive background check, their bosses , family members, and neighbors interviewed and they have to pass a psych interview. There would also be 20 hours of training ing, both classroom and live fire scenarios where CCW applicants would be trained on the different situations where deadly force could or couldn't be used. The fact is that right now the total amount of CCW holders in the U.S. do NOT kill very many people instead of just "fighting". I've tried to explain that to another poster on this and other threads.
    Then few would do it. In fact if you tried to support that law on here you will be called a gun banner

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidenrules29 View Post
    I dont think so. In my scenario the CCW applicants are thoroughly vetted. Including a comprehensive background check, their bosses , family members, and neighbors interviewed and they have to pass a psych interview. There would also be 20 hours of training ing, both classroom and live fire scenarios where CCW applicants would be trained on the different situations where deadly force could or couldn't be used.
    This is a perfect example of how to turn a right into a privilege.

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Then few would do it. In fact if you tried to support that law on here you will be called a gun banner
    What law? I dont believe I referenced or stated any law. Yes there would be regulations to get a CCW. And few would do what? Apply for a permit? There are very few states that have lax CCW policies. ( GA., AZ, AK included) The rest, my county in CA included, do stringent background checks to make sure you are not the type of idiot like you are describing.

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidenrules29 View Post
    What law? I dont believe I referenced or stated any law. Yes there would be regulations to get a CCW. And few would do what? Apply for a permit? There are very few states that have lax CCW policies. ( GA., AZ, AK included) The rest, my county in CA included, do stringent background checks to make sure you are not the type of idiot like you are describing.
    Dude. If you supported those regulations (laws) to be done nationwide you will be called a bannerhoid and gun banner.

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    Re: If CCW's were easier to get nationwide would crime go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Then few would do it. In fact if you tried to support that law on here you will be called a gun banner
    Yes in my original post I called it a law but I really meant a "policy" so to speak so forgive me.....

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