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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It was a bipartisan Bill, passed by a vast majority in both Houses, meaning it was supported by both parties.




    Jesus ****ing Christ! At least try to make rational arguments.
    moving the goal posts: I proved LBJ pushed that stupid gun bill.
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That makes no sense at all
    It makes more sense than you arguing a law passed with more Democrats voting against it than Republicans was somehow a "Democratic Gun Grab."

    And, yeah, I forgot the "k." **** happens.
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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Extended magazines.
    No background checks.
    No barrier to owning guns for people with mental illness.
    Semi-automatic weapons.

    Stuff like that.
    what is an extended magazine?
    background checks are worthless and the government doesn't have the proper power to demand private citizens conduct them. The Obama justice dept determined that without complete registration, such a law cannot be enforced. The NRA does not support those adjudicated mentally incompetent be allowed to own firearms

    that you want to ban semi auto weapons shows that the real extremists are not the NRA. 90% of the handguns and more than half the rifles and shotguns that have been sold in the USA over the last 30 years are semi autos.
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    moving the goal posts: I proved LBJ pushed that stupid gun bill.
    No, you claimed the 1968 GCA was a Democratic gun grab. It was bipartisan. So you failed...again.
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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It makes more sense than you arguing a law passed with more Democrats voting against it than Republicans was somehow a "Democratic Gun Grab."

    And, yeah, I forgot the "k." **** happens.
    You have never rebutted my proof as to why the NRA became political
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You have never rebutted my proof as to why the NRA became political
    Your proof fell apart when I proved that the 1968 GCA was bipartisan. In fact, far more D voted against it than R.

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    Guns did not become a partisan issue until the Clinton-hate spewed by G Gordon Liddy and Rush Limbaugh on those horrible radio shows that probably led directly to the OKC bombing.
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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Your proof fell apart when I proved that the 1968 GCA was bipartisan. In fact, far more D voted against it than R.

    TO PASS H.R. 17735. -- GovTrack.us

    TO PASS H. R. 17735, THE HOUSE BILL PROVIDING FOR BETTER CONTROL OF THE INTERSTATE TRAFFIC IN FIREARMS, AFTER SUBSTITUTING FOR ITS TEXT THE AMENDED LANGUAGE OF S. 3633. -- GovTrack.us

    Guns did not become a partisan issue until the Clinton-hate spewed by G Gordon Liddy and Rush Limbaugh on those horrible radio shows that probably led directly to the OKC bombing.
    that completely ignores history. why did the NRA become a political operative in the 1960s?
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that completely ignores history. why did the NRA become a political operative in the 1960s?
    No, that schools you in History.

    Learn it.
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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No, that schools you in History.

    Learn it.
    what caused the NRA to become political?
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Aren't there any democrats left in the NRA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what caused the NRA to become political?
    Quit backpedaling.


    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong-in the 60s, when the dems held all three branches of government, some on the right pointed out that dems were rather weak on dealing with the growing violent street crime-fueled by several things including the rampant increase in drug abuse as well as civil unrest instigated by a poorly planned and prosecuted war in SE Asia. So the Dems, in order to stave off these claims that the Dems were weak on crime, adopted gun control as a pretense to ward off those attacks. At first, harassing honest gun owners was NOT the intent. But the laws the Dems wanted did harass gun owners and the gun owners fought back and enlisted the biggest gun group around-the NRA. And NRA members and those who followed its lead-started voting against those who pretended that gun control was crime control. And those who foisted that nonsense upon the public, saw the NRA as an enemy.
    The stupid argument above was completely destroyed. Own it. Learn from it. Move on.
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