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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    One reason we have the right to own firearms is to give citizens the opportunity to fight back against a tyrannical federal government.
    Now, given the strength and wide range of "firearms" the US military has, is this outdated? There would have to be a fraction in
    the US military to support private citizens to make that work. What are the chances that would happen? So my question is, why do
    private citizens still need firearms that are used to kill people?
    Just asking, I'm actually a firearms advocate as long as everyone that owns a gun goes through training and a background check.
    In a flat out battle, citizens wouldn't stand a chance.
    But that's not what would happen.

    Places like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan have shown us how an armed populace can make an armed occupation untenable.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    That's my point. Even with "modern firepower" isn't a militia pretty useless?
    How modern are the folks we were fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq?

    It's not about battlefields, resounding victories and crushing defeats.
    It's about being able to wear down the larger, better armed force to where the occupation is too difficult for the reward.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    That's a good point, should we modify the 2nd amendment?
    We should repeal it.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    One reason we have the right to own firearms is to give citizens the opportunity to fight back against a tyrannical federal government.

    Now, given the strength and wide range of "firearms" the US military has, is this outdated? There would have to be a fraction in
    the US military to support private citizens to make that work. What are the chances that would happen? So my question is, why do
    private citizens still need firearms that are used to kill people?

    Just asking, I'm actually a firearms advocate as long as everyone that owns a gun goes through training and a background check.
    why? do you think the right to vote should require a literacy test too? You really aren't a firearms advocate when you think a constitutional right requires a test or training to exercise and some of your other points are the same thing we see from gun banners
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    That's a good point, should we modify the 2nd amendment?
    its a stupid point. it is akin to blaming child porn on the first amendment
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why? do you think the right to vote should require a literacy test too? You really aren't a firearms advocate when you think a constitutional right requires a test or training to exercise and some of your other points are the same thing we see from gun banners
    Yes, I do feel that voters should know what the candidates stand for before voting. Some voters vote blindly.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    One reason we have the right to own firearms is to give citizens the opportunity to fight back against a tyrannical federal government.

    Now, given the strength and wide range of "firearms" the US military has, is this outdated? There would have to be a fraction in
    the US military to support private citizens to make that work. What are the chances that would happen? So my question is, why do
    private citizens still need firearms that are used to kill people?

    Just asking, I'm actually a firearms advocate as long as everyone that owns a gun goes through training and a background check.
    At the time the 2A was ratified, guns were not the biggest or most lethal weapons existing.

    There were notably cannons in use by our military.

    Still, the framers felt that personal possession of firearms was a good idea.

    I’ve learned that genius’ ideas are often good ideas.

    Whatever else these guys were, they were also geniuses.
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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    The folks who say they own firearms to protect themselves from an overreaching government are only kidding themselves. They would be slaughtered by government troops.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    The folks who say they own firearms to protect themselves from an overreaching government are only kidding themselves. They would be slaughtered by government troops.
    that depends on how many troopers would follow a dictator and how many citizens would resist
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Tyrannical federal government

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that depends on how many troopers would follow a dictator and how many citizens would resist
    Good point. Just look at all the followers this wanna' be dictator has.

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