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    Re: Virginia House passes bill that bans assault weapons, other firearm accessories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    How can anyone be afraid of something they don't know about ?

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    When you are paranoid.. like you are.

    I fear be a victim of random gun violence...seeing a stranger (not counting law enforcement) with a gun, brings that fear into stark reality.
    Well..your fear is unwarranted. And two.. seeing a stranger with a gun.. would only bring on fear.. if you are paranoid.

    Most of your fellow Georgians would laugh at your paranoia. You probably work with people that own firearms and that carry them.

    Not at work, nor the majority of shops and recreational areas I go to
    Oh yes.. you are surrounded by firearms.

    TODAY - how do you know about tomorrow ?
    That's another example of your paranoia. Do you really think that your neighbors are in a constant state of maybe killing you? How sad for you. You know.. there is professional help for people with that condition.

    I'm more afraid of the disgruntled employee or ex-employee with a gun - it's way more common thanks to US gun laws
    Nope. its not.

    Statistically violent crimes.. which include disgruntled employees with guns.. is LESS common now. Despite gun sales soaring.

    Of course it does !!!
    Which displays a level of paranoia that needs professional help.

    No it's a loaded question, a false dichotomy that any choice results in death
    No its a question that deals with reality.

    So abortion is a LW policy ?
    Oh.. I am sorry .. you mean that the left wing doesn't support abortions rights.. oh my bad..

    Drug legalization causes death ? Where did you "learn" that
    Common sense.

    Legalization of drugs would afford more folks the opportunity to use them and overdose.. or use them while driving etc.. so yes … it would lead to more death.

    War is a LW policy ? Like Iraqi Freedom, Gulf Storm, War on Terror in Afghanistan ? Hmmm
    Yep.. many of the left wing support war on terror,, they supported Iraqi freedom, war on terror...

    Clinton in Kosovo.... the list goes on and on.

    You might want to check what is a Western country
    You might want to look at a map.

    You can't say any law/policy is independent of cultural variables
    THATS COMPLETELY WRONG.. you can absolutely do this by comparing countries that have disparate variables.

    For example.. if you say.. well.. gun control works.. look at the UK... well it could be that the UK has other variables.. like safety nets, a good economy.. other cultural factors that ALSO could contribute to a lower violence.

    SO.. you compare to a country that also has GUN CONTROL... but DOES NOT.. have the other safety nets.. good economy and other cultural factors. IF.. that country ALSO has lower violence.. well then you can determine that gun control DOES have a large effect on violence.

    IF NOT.. then you can rule out gun control as a primary factor.. and then it must be those other cultural issues.

    Its how scientific research works my friend.

    Compare US to UK cities.

    Apples with apples
    See above.

    Murder rates in US cities are higher in UK cities
    Nope. but it doesn't matter anyway statistically.

    You were saying about facts being on your side ?
    they are.

    I have already provided the evidence. You cannot look at murder rates because the definition of murder is different in the US than in th eUK. Its more valid to look at violent crime rates.. since they capture both murder, and homicide and all the other definitions of violent crime. And when you look at that.. the US is safer or as safe.

    A shotgun licence is available to anyone. Prove it if you think otherwise
    Its not.. and I already provided the evidence that you must show a valid reason for it. Which is something like hunting or shooting sports. And not only that.. a whole host of other requirements as well.

    I already provided that information.

    I'll tell you what.. you prove that in London I can have a shotgun for self defense. Go ahead.. try it.

    No, people living in the USA

    And you are lying again.. please stop.. you previously said that shotguns and rifles would be allowed to citizens when pressed.

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    es and yes (don't need it for defense that it - unless you consider its value as a comfort blanket is applicable in that regard).
    Well.. the cdc research under Obama.. which I provided to you.. stated that firearms ownership plays an important role in self defense and that those that defended themselves with firearms.. received less injuries and were more likely to survive than those that defended themselves with other means.

    But hey.. that's just facts.. and you don't like that.. you enjoy your paranoia.

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    Re: Virginia House passes bill that bans assault weapons, other firearm accessories.

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    When you are paranoid.. like you are.

    List of mass shootings in the United States in 2020 - Wikipedia


    No reason to fear being shot in the USA. Why do you think Trump (the 2nd amendment guy) bans guns from his rallies ?


    Well..your fear is unwarranted. And two.. seeing a stranger with a gun.. would only bring on fear.. if you are paranoid.
    See above regarding guns at a Trump rally


    Most of your fellow Georgians would laugh at your paranoia. You probably work with people that own firearms and that carry them.
    I'f I saw one at work I'd report them and have them fired
    If I saw one in a bar or store, I would report it to the management or leave


    Oh yes.. you are surrounded by firearms
    Nope


    ...do you really think that your neighbors are in a constant state of maybe killing you?
    How many times was Stephen Paddock in that "state" ?

    Statistically violent crimes.. which include disgruntled employees with guns.. is LESS common now. Despite gun sales soaring.

    Prove it

    And it's still common (even ***IF*** it used to happen even more)
    Mass shootings are going up - or hadn't you realized ?


    No its a question that deals with reality.
    Then please give an example


    Oh.. I am sorry .. you mean that the left wing doesn't support abortions rights...
    It's a liberal policy, explain how that is "killing"


    Legalization of drugs would afford more folks the opportunity to use them and overdose...
    Or would deaths go DOWN

    What happened in Portugal after the legalization of drugs ?
    And who on the left wants to legalize drugs anyway ? Or are you talking JUST about marijuana in which case where's your evidence ?

    many of the left wing support war on terror...
    RW policies from Republican administrations. You're "argument" is getting pathetic

    Clinton in Kosovo....
    Peacekeeping force - there was no war involvement there...you could add Greneda, the bombing of Libya, recent missile attacks on Syria
    Someone is ignorant on history and is getting hysterical

    You might want to look at a map.
    Irrelevant. "Western" is a cultural concept not a geographical one


    THATS COMPLETELY WRONG.. you can absolutely do this by comparing countries that have disparate variables.
    Nope
    Getting hysterical again


    ...it could be that the UK has other variables.. like safety nets, a good economy.. other cultural factors that ALSO could contribute to a lower violence.
    The UK and the USA are both Western countries and culturally very similar

    Nope. but it doesn't matter anyway statistically
    Yes, murder rates are higher in US cities than UK cities and yes it does matter


    I have already provided the evidence. You cannot look at murder rates because the definition of murder is different in the US than in the UK...
    No you haven't - if so in which post ?
    And no they're not


    I already provided that information....you prove that in London I can have a shotgun for self defense.
    No you haven't
    I don't have to, YOU have to show you cannot.
    A man in London can get a shotgun licence upon paying the fairly small fee unless the police can show he should not have one.



    ...you previously said that shotguns and rifles would be allowed to citizens when pressed
    They would be
    Stop your lying and your straw man argument

    ...firearms ownership plays an important role in self defense...
    And a more important role in owners getting shot.

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