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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by zsu2357 View Post
    What happens if LE starts mass shooting, who guards them?
    Other LEO.

    But that problem exists in the USA today....I've read that there's no legal way you can stop a cop, even if what he's doing is illegal

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by zsu2357 View Post
    What happens if LE starts mass shooting, who guards them?
    Other LEO.

    But that problem exists in the USA today....I've read that there's no legal way you can stop a cop, even if what he's doing is illegal



    How would you suggest LE protect from it? Oh wait I guess they didn't. Through no fault of theirs.
    Sound like you're saying there is no physical protection that would work


    I'm sure they could have had access.
    Why ?


    Has there ever been a man who got access to illegal gun for a mass shooting in the UK ?

    Gun laws up the butt = terrorist wet dream.
    Explain


    Bad gun laws = very poorly armed citizenry.

    Good gun laws = a well armed people (ie: only muzzle loaders, bolt action rifles and shot guns holding no more than three shells)


    The British people are well armed

    The American people are badly armed.

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Other LEO.

    But that problem exists in the USA today....I've read that there's no legal way you can stop a cop, even if what he's doing is illegal
    Yes you can. If a cop is trying to rape and murder you, you can use any means to stop him.

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    The British people are well armed

    The American people are badly armed.
    You've got to be kidding me. You expect British armed citizens, what few of them there are and armed with their bolt action rifles and break open shotguns to prevail against the American armed citizens who not only vastly outnumber them but are also armed with semi automatic rifles, semi automatic shotguns, handguns, and in some cases full automatics?

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    Yes you can. If a cop is trying to rape and murder you, you can use any means to stop him.
    No you can't, that's called resisting arrest - which is what he will claim

    If you lay a hand on an officer on duty, you are breaking the law. It's crazy but it's true.
    (in the UK, it's illegal to obstruct an officer performing his/her duties, so you can argue if they are acting illegally, they are not performing their duties)
    Not so in the USA


    You've got to be kidding me. You expect British armed citizens, what few of them there are and armed with their bolt action rifles and break open shotguns to prevail against the American armed citizens who not only vastly outnumber them but are also armed with semi automatic rifles, semi automatic shotguns, handguns, and in some cases full automatics?
    I didn't say that

    I said British citizens are well armed and US citizens are badly armed

    That is in my opinion of course.

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    No you can't, that's called resisting arrest - which is what he will claim

    If you lay a hand on an officer on duty, you are breaking the law. It's crazy but it's true.
    (in the UK, it's illegal to obstruct an officer performing his/her duties, so you can argue if they are acting illegally, they are not performing their duties)
    Not so in the USA
    No, as I said if he is trying to do something such as rape and/or murder you, you can use any means to stop him up to and including deadly force. It will definitely go to court but if its been found that that's the case, that you were defending yourself from a corrupt officer who was trying to do such stuff to you, it will be justified. I've taken law classes and this is a specific topic my professor addressed. I've got an education my friend, unlike people who are against gun rights.




    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    I didn't say that

    I said British citizens are well armed and US citizens are badly armed

    That is in my opinion of course.
    So you think the British are better armed than the US citizens? That's silly.

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    Re: Thailand Shooting Spree

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    No, as I said if he is trying to do something such as rape and/or murder you, you can use any means to stop him up to and including deadly force....
    That's called obstruction, and you'll be arrested for it

    A private citizen does not have the power to use force on a police officer on duty.

    So if a cop puts your mother in a choke hold, you cannot stop him/her without breaking the law...if they put you in a choke hold and you resist, you are breaking the law

    So you think the British are better armed than the US citizens? That's silly.
    IMO they are.

    An armed British citizen will (typically) have no more than a double barreled shotgun...that is much better than what a typical US citizen might have IMO.

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