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California Gun Laws Are Totally Ridiculous

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This video explains just how ridiculous California gun laws are.
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This is why gun control laws should stay away from definitions

Eg. banning a "military style" gun because it has a bayonet lug

British gun laws are generally good but they define a handgun by length, so welding on a metal rod increases the length and makes it legal

The answer is to ban ALL guns and allow for the executive to produce a list of exemptions by make and model number.
 
Rich2018 said:
This is why gun control laws should stay away from definitions

Eg. banning a "military style" gun because it has a bayonet lug

British gun laws are generally good but they define a handgun by length, so welding on a metal rod increases the length and makes it legal

The answer is to ban ALL guns and allow for the executive to produce a list of exemptions by make and model number.
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Only if we do that for cars first. Unfortunately, in order for the American people to be safe, no current car model will be available.
 
Tlrmln said:
Only if we do that for cars first. Unfortunately, in order for the American people to be safe, no current car model will be available.
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Ridiculous statement

What about kitchen knives ?

How many people die each year from swimming pool accidents ?

After Kobe Bryant's recent death should we ban helicopters ?



Why don't you start a thread about banning cars and see how much support you get ?

To bpass an amendment banning cars you need 75% of states to approve, so stop counting states after you get to 13 who'll reject your ridiculous plan.
 
Rich2018 said:
The answer is to ban ALL guns and allow for the executive to produce a list of exemptions by make and model number.
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That's how its done in Japan. In Japan the law states, "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords" and then makes some exemptions for certain rifles and shotguns. So you do want gun laws like Japan.
 
Rich2018 said:
How many people die each year from swimming pool accidents ?
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More children die from swimming pool drownings than die from getting shot.

Rich2018 said:
To bpass an amendment banning cars you need 75% of states to approve, so stop counting states after you get to 13 who'll reject your ridiculous plan.
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And you would need at least the same amount of approval to pass an amendment banning guns, which is never going to happen.
 
DebateChallenge said:
That's how its done in Japan. In Japan the law states, "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords" and then makes some exemptions for certain rifles and shotguns. So you do want gun laws like Japan.
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I'm not too familiar with Japanese gun laws so I'd say I want something similar the British gun laws


More children die from swimming pool drownings than die from getting shot.
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So we should ban swimming pools now? How about kitchen knives?


More children probably die in car accidents

What-about-ism

And you would need at least the same amount of approval to pass an amendment banning guns, which is never going to happen.
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So no need to oppose mandatory gun registration then which TurtleDude says is a first step to confiscation...which would require a repeal of the 2nd amendment.
 
Rich2018 said:
So no need to oppose mandatory gun registration then which TurtleDude says is a first step to confiscation...which would require a repeal of the 2nd amendment.
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No mandatory gun registration would make gun ownership into a privilege. Gun ownership is not a privilege in the USA its a right.
 
Rich2018 said:
How would it ?
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What differentiates a privilege from a right is that with a privilege certain standards must be met and maintained in order to be allowed to do it. That's why you have to register cars that you drive on public roads, because driving is a privilege in the USA.
 
Rich2018 said:
How would it ?
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Under your registration how much would it cost to register and would there be an annual fee associated with this program.
 
DebateChallenge said:
What differentiates a privilege from a right is that with a privilege certain standards must be met and maintained in order to be allowed to do it. That's why you have to register cars that you drive on public roads, because driving is a privilege in the USA.
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So why do you have to register to vote ?
 
Rich2018 said:
I would guess under $100, but that would be per gun.
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Is that per year?

I can see how that would impact lower income people and create an unnecessary burden on exercising their right
 
Chillfolks said:
Is that per year?

I can see how that would impact lower income people and create an unnecessary burden on exercising their right
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I wouldn't think it would be necessary, but only when a gun is bought or sold (ownership changes)
 
Rich2018 said:
So why do you have to register to vote ?
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So that your vote can be properly registered and determine which elections you are eligible to vote in.
 
bave said:
So that your vote can be properly registered and determine which elections you are eligible to vote in.
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So it's OK to regulate voting rights to ensure your right to vote isn't misused

But seemingly some argue that it's NOT OK to regulate the right to bear arms to ensure that right isn't misused.
 
Rich2018 said:
So why do you have to register to vote ?
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I personally am against registering to vote. I don't think you should have to register to vote and the fact that you do I would have to say is unconstitutional.
 
Rich2018 said:
So it's OK to regulate voting rights to ensure your right to vote isn't misused

But seemingly some argue that it's NOT OK to regulate the right to bear arms to ensure that right isn't misused.
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The way voting rights are 'regulated' in OR. I would say are misused. Why wouldn't gun rights being regulated be misused?
 
Rich2018 said:
Ridiculous statement

What about kitchen knives ?

How many people die each year from swimming pool accidents ?
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Not nearly as many as die from people driving too fast, but if we're going to ban rifles based on having a pistol grip, or 11+ round magazines, we might as well ban swimming pools that are blue or more than 10 inches deep. It would make about as much sense and actually save more lives than banning "assault weapons" (which won't save any lives).


Why don't you start a thread about banning cars and see how much support you get ?
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I never said anything about banning cars, other than practically all the ones that currently exist, because pretty much all of them can go faster than 55mph. If you have a car that can't go faster than 55 mph, you can keep it. Nobody needs to drive faster than 55mph.

I'm sure I could get more support for it if I call them "Assault Cars" or "Cars of Death" or something clever like that.

How much support do you think you'd get in a thread where you propose to ban all guns?

To bpass an amendment banning cars you need 75% of states to approve, so stop counting states after you get to 13 who'll reject your ridiculous plan.
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We wouldn't need to pass an amendment to ban all cars that can go faster than 55 mph.
 
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DebateChallenge said:
I personally am against registering to vote. I don't think you should have to register to vote and the fact that you do I would have to say is unconstitutional.
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Do you think a released felon on completion of a sentence should automatically get the right to vote reinstated ?
 
zsu2357 said:
The way voting rights are 'regulated' in OR. I would say are misused. Why wouldn't gun rights being regulated be misused?
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Voting rights are misused, chiefly by republican governments who want to strike voters off the rolls.


Misused in what way ?


I think gun registry data should be confidential and for government use only - like census data.
 
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