NARRATIVE FAIL: Minorities, LGBT Community, Women Show Up In Force At Pro-Gun Rally

[Rich2018]

It's a possibility just as him doing nothing is....

This a president who prides himself on action and getting-things-done remember ?

The protesters disagree with what you feel is needed. Luckily they have the freedom to do what they feel is needed and aren't worried about your opinion.

Why should they be worried about any one voice

The very problem is that many of them saw no problem with protesting with guns strapped to their chest.

 

[Rich2018]

I could see Trump saying that there were good people on both sides

LOL

From his bunker.

 

[Chillfolks]

This a president who prides himself on action and getting-things-done remember ?





Why should they be worried about any one voice

The very problem is that many of them saw no problem with protesting with guns strapped to their chest.

That's not a problem at all. They obeyed the law and exercised a constitutionally protected freedom. Just because they chose to peacefully protest in manner you disagree with doesn't make it a problem. That makes it solely your problem.

 

[Nickyjo]

I didn't notice any counter-protestors. Did you?

Well, that settles it. No blacks, whites, immigrants, LGBT people, men or women support gun control. Where do the 64% who support forms of gun control come from?

 

[BlueTex]

well apdst is talking like the Richmond police couldn't contain them, which is a crazy idea. Those idiots can't take on the US military.

Everybody is a hero until they are actually in charge.. How many of those 20,000 were actually from Virginia?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Rich2018]

That's not a problem at all. They obeyed the law and exercised a constitutionally protected freedom. Just because they chose to peacefully protest in manner you disagree with doesn't make it a problem. That makes it solely your problem.

Not to you.

 

[Chillfolks]

Not to you.

Nor to many others, at least about 20,000 saw no issue with not including others who didn't show up. The problem is yours.

 

[Harshaw]

I didn't call them that

I just made the point that criminal gangs are also citizens and come to a place for a purpose, so your statement about the people Richmond rally was so broad it could also refer to a criminal gamg
A little reading comprehension goes a long way






Were they mot trying to force the Virginia governor to change policy?




Nope an event organists by white supremacists could be said the be their event. It would be the event of some white supremacists or a white supremacists event.






Nope, he would be acting in his capacity if he said it on camera.

Or, if he had a column, in a newspaper or other periodical.

Always childish nonsense from you.

 

[Rich2018]

Always childish nonsense from you.

A worthless post.

Utterly without claim to be on a debate forum.

 

[Rich2018]

Nor to many others, at least about 20,000 saw no issue with not including others who didn't show up. The problem is yours.

Nope the problem is yours and the "many" others who saw no issue with it.

 

[Fledermaus]

Nope the problem is yours and the "many" others who saw no issue with it.

If there isn't a problem there isn't a problem.

 

[Rich2018]

Nor to many others, at least about 20,000 saw no issue with not including others who didn't show up. The problem is yours.

When you say the problem in "yours" I assume you're using it as a plural.

 

[Chillfolks]

Nope the problem is yours and the "many" others who saw no issue with it.

You are wrong but that's ok your free to wrong. We will not agree on this issue like we don't agree on many other issues.

 

[Rich2018]

You are wrong but that's ok your free to wrong. We will not agree on this issue like we don't agree on many other issues.

Well IMO you are wrong. But I accept your right to be wrong in a free society.

 

[Fledermaus]

A worthless post.

Utterly without claim to be on a debate forum.

Dishonest truncation

 

[apdst]

Well, that settles it. No blacks, whites, immigrants, LGBT people, men or women support gun control. Where do the 64% who support forms of gun control come from?

Your imagination.

 

[jaeger19]

Man, you're so tough

If 22,000 (mostly) armed men converged on my town, I'd lock the doors...

Afterwards I'd demand to know from the local mayor what he/she planned to do to stop another similar invasion.

Tough? It has NOTHING to do with being tough!. It has to do with the fact that I am a reasonable, thinking adult..not prone to hysterics like you are.

Basically my whole state is armed. Just about every single male and female owns a firearm in my state.. usually multiple firearms. I have my own pistol pit in my backyard.

If I was to worry because "oh my gosh.. there are armed people"... crap.. I would be worried 24 seven because owning firearms is a way of life where I live. During hunting season and fishing season.. which is all year round... the restaurants, diners, walmarts are filled with armed people. openly carrying firearms. Its nothing to be in a local diner and have guys that literally just walked in from pheasant hunting the field across the way.. or duck hunting the river etc.. to come in with their shotguns and lean them up against the gun rack the restaurant provides.

What hysterical people like yourself don't understand. Is that the VAST VAST VAST majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens that you have nothing to worry about. Whether you are in the West.. or in NY. The likelihood is that where you live.. most if not all of your neighbors are armed. The folks that you think are nice normal people.. all probably own guns. They don't tell you.. or let you know because you are a bit of a hysterical ninny when it comes to guns.

I am reminded of a democrat senator in my state that was lamenting the law relaxing our carry laws back 20 years ago. And how "I don't want to eat in a restaurant where the fellow next to me is armed".

Cripes... the fact was that every day.. wherever he went to eat.. he was surrounded by armed people carry concealed.

That's when I realized when I carry why I carry concealed.. and whats bad about that. I don't carry concealed because of criminals. Heck.. for criminals.. you would really want to carry openly.. to show you are not a good potential victim ... that would be the most effective.

The reason we carry concealed.. is so that we don't freak out ninny's like you. And that in a way causes a problem. Because.. folks like yourself only associate firearms with "bad people". When woman in your office? The soccer mom who votes democrat with you? She has a firearm in her purse.
The fellow down the street who you borrowed a jack from? He owns an AR 15 style firearm.

Think about your logic. 22,000... 22,000 armed individuals "descended" on a town.

and...… Nothing happened. Hundreds of these very protests have occurred around the country.. with armed individuals... and.... nothing happened.

Pretty much proves your fear is unwarranted.

 

[Rich2018]

Everybody is a hero until they are actually in charge.. How many of those 20,000 were actually from Virginia?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's a good question.

A lot of "protesters" were not from there judging by the many interviews the media conducted.

 

[Rich2018]

Tough? It has NOTHING to do with being tough!. It has to do with the fact that I am a reasonable, thinking adult..not prone to hysterics like you are.

You mean you agree with them

What if you were surrounded by 22,000 (mostly) gun wielding men protesting about something you agree with? I best we'd see some hysteria from you then.

Basically my whole state is armed. Just about every single male and female owns a firearm in my state...

Sounds like there's little grounds to objecting to a mandatory gun registry in you state then, basically it would be a copy of the phone book (if there still are those)

What hysterical people like yourself don't understand. Is that the VAST VAST VAST majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens...

When you climb off the ceiling from you hysteria, you'll see that those favoring gun control accept exactly that.

That most guns/gun owners will NEVER cause any trouble or commit a SINGLE crime, yet sadly we must take most of their guns away in order to remove the guns that WILL be used to commit a crime.
It isn't fair, but we can't know who will commit these crimes and the law can't distinguish prior to any event.

You can carry on with your hysterical rantings now

I am reminded of a democrat senator in my state that was lamenting the law relaxing our carry laws back 20 years ago. And how "I don't want to eat in a restaurant where the fellow next to me is armed".

I don't either, in fact I don't want to be in the same building as an armed me or woman.

That's why many businesses put up no guns signs

... the fact was that every day.. wherever he went to eat.. he was surrounded by armed people carry concealed....

Which is why I prefer to frequent restaurants/bars with "no guns" signs clearly visible

That's when I realized when I carry why I carry concealed.. and whats bad about that. I don't carry concealed because of criminals. Heck.. for criminals.. you would really want to carry openly.. to show you are not a good potential victim ... that would be the most effective...

And get shot - wise move

Or more likely have a gang of youths surround you and "f**k" with you...what's more you'll deserve it

Think about your logic. 22,000... 22,000 armed individuals "descended" on a town.

and...… Nothing happened. Hundreds of these very protests have occurred around the country.. with armed individuals... and.... nothing happened.

Thankfully

Pretty much proves your fear is unwarranted.

Because you know for a fact none of those guns will ever be used to commit a crime.

 

[jaeger19]

You mean you agree with them

What if you were surrounded by 22,000 (mostly) gun wielding men protesting about something you agree with? I best we'd see some hysteria from you then.

e.

No you would not you ninny. Because Yes.. I have been at counter protests in the same state.. protesting against laws against gay marriage. and yep.. both sides were armed. and.... nothing happened.

The only one who is hysterical here is you. There are tons of these protests against gun control.. all across the country. for years.. and what has happened? Oh right.. nothing.

Sounds like there's little grounds to objecting to a mandatory gun registry in you state then, basically it would be a copy of the phone book (if there still are those)

What? The grounds for objecting to a mandatory gun registry have nothing to do with "how many people own guns"... The grounds against "mandatory gun registry"..
Consist of things like 1. Its unconstitutional
2. It has been proven absolutely ineffective in doing anything other than create hassles for law abiding citizens
3. It can be used as a means of confiscating firearms in violation of the constitution.

That most guns/gun owners will NEVER cause any trouble or commit a SINGLE crime, yet sadly we must take most of their guns away in order to remove the guns that WILL be used to commit a crime.
It isn't fair, but we can't know who will commit these crimes and the law can't distinguish prior to any event.

BWAAAHH.. that's just hysterical nonsense. "we have to take away your property because well..we don't know that it WON"T be used in a crime".

When do we start confiscating knives, cars, rope, duct tape, propane tanks, fertilizer, pressure cookers, etc? Which all have been used in crime.

Meanwhile.. almost all valid studies agree that firearms use for defense.. is far far far more prevalent than firearms use for crime.

I don't either, in fact I don't want to be in the same building as an armed me or woman.

That's why many businesses put up no guns signs

Bwahhh… YOU LIVE IN GEORGIA!. Your state has MORE GUN OWNERS than mine does. You are constantly surrounded by armed individuals just about everywhere you go.

Your state allows people to own FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. Probably some of your neighbors.

Which is why I prefer to frequent restaurants/bars with "no guns" signs clearly visible

Again..silly hysterics. So..you think you are safe because a person planning to shoot up the place is going to obey that signs.

Oh wait.. but the parking lot.. where you walk out to.. what about that.. where all those folks have their firearms??

And get shot - wise move

Or more likely have a gang of youths surround you and "f**k" with you...what's more you'll deserve it

WTF? You really think that I am MORE like to get shot if I openly carry a gun.. versus not? That a criminal is going to decide that instead of taking the watch and money from YOU.. a helpless ninny. They are going to go after an openly ARMED person? How silly for you to think so.

Cripes man.. all studies show that criminals fear the armed citizen MORE than they fear anything else including the police!. Studies have shown that criminals have avoided potential victims simply based on a suspicion that they were armed.

Or more likely have a gang of youths surround you and "f**k" with you...what's more you'll deserve it

Wow. is that some nutty thinking.

One.. its nuts to think that "some gang of youths".. is going to surround a person that is knowingly armed.

Cripes.. your afraid to be in the same building with a person that's armed.... and you think criminals are going to want to openly threaten and ARMED individual.?

TWO... how crazy to think that a law abiding citizen.. DESERVES TO BE ATTACKED.. simply because they carry a firearm. You realize just how absurd your argument is.

Whats next... "well that girl DESERVED to be raped.. look at what she was wearing?"..

Thankfully

Because you know for a fact none of those guns will ever be used to commit a crime.

Yep.. statistically that's a fact.

I am far more likely to be injured by a fellow driving a car.. than by one of those firearms, and yet.. I don't stay in my house for fear of cars.. nor do I expect that we need to confiscate cars.

 

[Rich2018]

I have been at counter protests in the same state.. protesting against laws against gay marriage. and yep.. both sides were armed

Were you protesting for or against gay marriage and the protest you were opposing, was it by 22k men openly carrying guns ?

We can all be brave on the 'Net, I'd like to see your bravery when facing 22k guns

...the grounds against "mandatory gun registry" consist of things like
1. Its unconstitutional
2. It has been proven absolutely ineffective in doing anything other than create hassles for law abiding citizens
3. It can be used as a means of confiscating firearms in violation of the constitution.

Is the mandatory registration of cars constitutional?


Doesn't Maryland require you to register your hand gun ? And not been ruled constitutional?

Gun laws in Maryland - Wikipedia


Are you not aware of the requests to the ATF every year for info?
Why would they make hundreds of thousands of requests, & if the data was more complete, would you not expect even more requests?

But gun owners say such a confiscation will never happen, or do you now think the government could ban guns ?

BWAAAHH that's just hysterical nonsense

Says a guy beset by hysteria & thinks the US government might actually ban guns/seize them

we have to take away your property because we don't know that it WON"T be used in a crime

Yes, such is the case when things are banned - like the gun bans in almost EVERY country in the Western World

When do we start confiscating knives, cars....

Hysterical nonsense and pure what-about-ism

You missed off banning swimming pools too :lamo

almost all valid studies agree that firearms use for defense is far more prevalent than firearms use for crime

And you can cite such a study ? (not one by the NRA)

A wild, unsupported claim, as usual from gun owners

Bwahhh… YOU LIVE IN GEORGIA!. Your state has MORE GUN OWNERS than mine does. You are constantly surrounded by armed individuals just about everywhere you go

I have lived here since 2001 and never yet seen an ordinary citizen open carry

IMO people who open carry are nothing but idiots

Again..silly hysterics. So..you think you are safe because a person planning to shoot up the place is going to obey that signs.

No a calm decision

I prefer not to eat/drink (especially drink) with people carrying guns. s I said, IMO they're being idiotic and I don't want to eat with them, hell I don't want to even know them
Guns and alcohol don't mix - call it hysteria if you like.

Oh wait.. but the parking lot.. where you walk out to.. what about that.. where all those folks have their firearms??

More wild hysteria

So, let me guess what you're going to say, I should carry a gun because it'll help me if I get shot.

Or maybe I should draw my gun first, crouch behind a car engine block and make short sprints from car to car until I reach my bullet proff tank.
We don't all survive on reading comic books and watching action movies,

Surprisingly enough in 109 years I've never been threatened by a gun in as parking lot, guess I must have just been lucky :doh

...you really think that I am MORE like to get shot if I openly carry a gun.. versus not?

Yes. If you carry a gun, you're more likely to get shot by a negligent discharge than attacked by an armed gang

Cripes man.. all studies show that criminals fear the armed citizen MORE than they fear anything else including the police!

Total hysterics

Studies have shown that criminals have avoided potential victims simply based on a suspicion that they were armed.

Ah these "mythical" studies again.

Wow. is that some nutty thinking.

One.. its nuts to think that "some gang of youths".. is going to surround a person that is knowingly armed....

Nope they tend to pick on idiotic people rather those who just blend in.

Cripes.. your afraid to be in the same building with a person that's armed....

Yes

...how crazy to think that a law abiding citizen.. DESERVES TO BE ATTACKED.. simply because they carry a firearm....

Hysterical ranting

I didn't say they deserve to be attacked, just that open carry is idiotic and carrying a gun period is more dangerous than not

Whats next... "well that girl DESERVED to be raped.. look at what she was wearing?"..

Pure hysteria

Yep statistically that's a fact

Because you believe in foresight ?

I am far more likely to be injured by a fellow driving a car than by one of those firearms

Correct & I support all efforts to make driving/cars safer

 

[Nickyjo]

Your imagination.

Look it up.

 

[apdst]

Look it up.

I got a better idea: show us a poll that polled 100% of the citizens in The United States and found 64% of those citizens were in favor of gun bans and confiscation? M'kay? We'll be waiting.

 

[digitusmedius]

Well, another loss for the Leftists.

NARRATIVE FAIL: Minorities, LGBT Community, Women Show Up In Force At Pro-Gun Rally | The Daily Wire

So, somebody photoshopped a bunch of pix and made a montage. I guess you need to do anything to support the lie that your views are widely held. I know the NRA tells you what to think but here's what the American people really think:
http://https://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

 

[digitusmedius]

I got a better idea: show us a poll that polled 100% of the citizens in The United States and found 64% of those citizens were in favor of gun bans and confiscation? M'kay? We'll be waiting.

Wow, how desperate you must to be that it takes a poll of every citizen (would that include newborns?) to find out how people regard your ridiculous gun fantasy and fanaticism.