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Utah Mass Shooting

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Nickyjo said:
The only entity that has called for no borders that I know of was the Wall Street Journal some years ago. And if you can refer me to a bill liberals have introduced to ban guns in the USA, I would be interested.
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the democrats passed the hughes amendment which banned the sale of machine guns made after May 19,1986- even though legal machine guns have almost zero incidents of criminal misuse. EVERY dem running for president wants to ban semi auto rifles
 
iguanaman said:
The Utah governor said this...
"Parents and grandparents, secure your firearms!" Herbert said in a statement.
How about a law requiring firearms to be secure in homes with minor children? Or is that too radical for the gun-toting snowflakes.
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Parents can be charged if their children get their hands on unsecured guns. But that is no reason to add a new government agency with thousands of employees at an additional billions of dollars cost for the purpose of writing instructions for parents to follow regarding the safe handling and storage of everything from ping pong paddles to garden rakes. Accidents are going to happen. Unlike court arguments by greedy lawyers driving expensive cars and living in mansions, every bad decision ever made should not be taken as a violation of regulations or a need for new regulations.
 
Dateline Texas, San Antonio to be exact.

SAN ANTONIO - Two people have died and five people are in critical condition after a suspect fired off multiple shots inside a club near the River Walk Sunday night.

It happened just after 8 p.m. at Ventura in the 1011 block of Avenue B.

"There was some type of concert going on in there," San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said.

All of a sudden, McManus said, there was an an argument inside, when one person pulled out a gun and began shooting.

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/two-people-dead-from-gunshot-in-downtown-club
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Someone pulled out a gun and started shooting. Imagine that. Shocking, I know.
 
marke said:
We have found that it is nearly impossible to make everyone safe from random gun violence, even in schools with armed guards posted. We don't need nonsense gun laws to protect us. We need to pray to God to protect us or to take us to heaven if we die.
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Fledermaus said:
Nobody or no place is safe from violence, even beautiful, serene Hawaii.
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Not to many people stabbing cops to death or taking them out with baseball bats. But guns...different story. Amirite?
 
Grand Mal said:
No they're not. Do you mean that there's far more violent mental illness in the US than there is in the rest of the West?
Your Mercator analogy doesn't work unless the polar disproportions represent the American disproportionality re. mass killings.
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I see no need to make it about race, but that's your choice. IMO, it's more a matter of population density, culture and mental illness.

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CaughtInThe said:
this woman was gunned down by her husband in North Carolina. why do we pretty much never talk about the women who are gunned down by their husbands/boyfriends/exes??


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Harnett sheriff: 2 dead in domestic violence shooting - News - The Fayetteville Observer - Fayetteville, NC
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Because, even though like gang-bangers killing each other, there are hundreds more domestic violence incidents than "mass shootings", for the LW anti-gun lobby, "mass shootings" are sexier. Note how many threads address "mass shootings" compared to domestic violence and gang-banger murders.
 
calamity said:
Not to many people stabbing cops to death or taking them out with baseball bats. But guns...different story. Amirite?
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The suspect in Hawaii was known to be mentally ill and had previous run-ins with the police. The violence started when he was being evicted.

So, again we have a situation of a mentally ill person who is not being treated where both the laws and facilities are insufficient to treat him and the LW/Democratic solution is to ban guns.
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Rising Sun said:
The suspect in Hawaii was known to be mentally ill and had previous run-ins with the police. The violence started when he was being evicted.

So, again we have a situation of a mentally ill person who is not being treated where both the laws and facilities are insufficient to treat him and the LW/Democratic solution is to ban guns.
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Did he stab the cops or use a baseball bat? No. He used a gun. So, my post responding to Fled's attempt to whitewash the facts stands.
 
calamity said:
Did he stab the cops or use a baseball bat? No. He used a gun. So, my post responding to Fled's attempt to whitewash the facts stands.
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Did he use a racist Mercator Projection map? No, he did not. Did the Mercator Projection map cure his mental illness? No, it did not. Obviously the problem is the racist, anti-brown people Mercator Projection maps. Time to ban them!!!!
 
Incredulous said:
Love and hate are two horns on the same goat, especially in intimate relationships. Mentally stable people do not - except in cases of self defense - harm or kill others.
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so, your argument is that any husband/boyfriend/ex that guns down their wife/girlfriend is mentally ill, correct?
 
marke said:
Talk about victims of gun violence will never make it logical to disarm all Americans with the untested hope that will stop gun violence. Common sense tells us disarming good Americans will never lead to crooks giving up their guns.
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we're not going to disarm all americans. the gun violence will never stop.
 
calamity said:
I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses.
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Last chance , what do you mean by "I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses"

Can't you answer your own post question when asked to explain?:mrgreen:
 
CaughtInThe said:
so, your argument is that any husband/boyfriend/ex that guns down their wife/girlfriend is mentally ill, correct?
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it's the old "good guy with a gun" argument until he's not anymore a good guy. Everyone is sane until they do something insane.
 
Rising Sun said:
Because, even though like gang-bangers killing each other, there are hundreds more domestic violence incidents than "mass shootings", for the LW anti-gun lobby, "mass shootings" are sexier. Note how many threads address "mass shootings" compared to domestic violence and gang-banger murders.
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uh, there is constant talk in the media about gun violence and gang-bangers.

hell, just start with Fox. google...

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mike2810 said:
Last chance , what do you mean by "I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses"

Can't you answer your own post question when asked to explain?:mrgreen:
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Last chance for what....free burgers?
 
mike2810 said:
Last chance , what do you mean by "I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses"

Can't you answer your own post question when asked to explain?:mrgreen:
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She means ban guns which is the consistent ideology in all of her posts. Of course, in another of her threads she claims that the Mercator Projection map is a racist attempt to minimize "brown people" and not a 2-dimensional chart of a 3-dimensional planet for the purposes of navigation sooooo......

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/381969-big-africa-14.html#post1071206425

This thread is typical of the LW anti-gun lobby; focus only on "gun violence" with the solution being to ban guns, not a word about mental illness or providing laws to support better mental health care.
 
CaughtInThe said:
uh, there is constant talk in the media about gun violence and gang-bangers.

hell, just start with Fox. google...

fox news gang bangers
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The point was about the LW anti-gunners talking about gang-bangers. Sorry if my post wasn't clear on that point.

As for "gun violence", you strike me as intelligent and sane enough to know that 2/3s of those "gun violence" deaths are suicides and that all of those gun suicides only represent half of all suicides. How many gun-banners have posted threads advocating better mental health care to save the 47,000 Americans who take their own lives every year versus simply banning guns? I have not seen a one of them. Certainly not Calamity.
 
calamity said:
Last chance for what....free burgers?
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Sure, why not free burgers. You have been asked twice by me and one other poster regarding your OP statement of ,"I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses"
Please explain.


or are just throwing things against the wall to what will stick. :mrgreen:
 
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