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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by CaughtInThe View Post
    this woman was gunned down by her husband in North Carolina. why do we pretty much never talk about the women who are gunned down by their husbands/boyfriends/exes??





    Harnett sheriff: 2 dead in domestic violence shooting - News - The Fayetteville Observer - Fayetteville, NC
    Talk about victims of gun violence will never make it logical to disarm all Americans with the untested hope that will stop gun violence. Common sense tells us disarming good Americans will never lead to crooks giving up their guns.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    The left wants-
    - open borders with Mexico
    - a ban on guns in the USA

    Are the cartels going to give up their guns too? They're present in all 50 states.
    And they cannot see the harm in communist policies. May God deliver us from the growing insanity of our depraved politicians.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Talk about victims of gun violence will never make it logical to disarm all Americans with the untested hope that will stop gun violence. Common sense tells us disarming good Americans will never lead to crooks giving up their guns.
    the anti gun movement is not a public safety movement, but a wing of the Democrat Party, that wants to harass and hassle pro gun voters, while pandering to slow witted voters who think gun control makes them safer
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    two people killed as in Hawaii does not qualify it as a "mass shooting".
    If it did qualify as a mass shooting then large democrat cities in the US with strict local gun laws are by far the most common sites of mass shootings in the country.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Utah shooting: Teen arrested after 4 killed in Utah home


    I think 225 just happened in Hawaii.

    2 officers dead in shooting near Hawaii'''s Diamond Head: Officials - ABC News

    Yep, appears so.

    I wonder if we'll ever come to our senses.
    Toss your guns in a safe place.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    The left wants-
    - open borders with Mexico
    - a ban on guns in the USA

    Are the cartels going to give up their guns too? They're present in all 50 states.
    The only entity that has called for no borders that I know of was the Wall Street Journal some years ago. And if you can refer me to a bill liberals have introduced to ban guns in the USA, I would be interested.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    If by "coming to our senses" is meant to suggest "outlawing guns in everyone's hands so that crooks won't have access to them" then that is silly. We do need to find ways to keep bad guys from getting guns but outlawing guns for everyone will never get guns out of the hands of bad guys.
    The Utah governor said this...
    "Parents and grandparents, secure your firearms!" Herbert said in a statement.
    How about a law requiring firearms to be secure in homes with minor children? Or is that too radical for the gun-toting snowflakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlrmln View Post
    We have. It's already almost always illegal to shoot people.
    We don't need to strengthen gun laws so much as we need to strip excessive legal protections for violent criminals, condemn more violent criminals to death and massively shorten the time period between a death sentence and execution.

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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Talk about victims of gun violence will never make it logical to disarm all Americans with the untested hope that will stop gun violence. Common sense tells us disarming good Americans will never lead to crooks giving up their guns.
    Disarming SOME individuals will save lives. 52 women a month are shot and killed by an intimate partner. That is horrendous.

    Every month, an average of 52 women are shot and killed by an intimate partner. Nearly 1 million women alive today have reported being shot or shot at by intimate partners, and 4.5 million women have reported being threatened with a gun. In more than half of mass shootings over the past decade, the perpetrator shot a current or former intimate partner or family member as part of the rampage. The ripple effects of firearms in the hands of an abuser extend far beyond the intimate relationship—affecting children who witness or live with it and the family members, coworkers, and law enforcement officers who respond to it.
    Guns and Violence Against Women: America's Uniquely Lethal Intimate Partner Violence Problem - EverytownResearch.org
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    Re: Utah Mass Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish Howl View Post
    **** if I know.

    I do know that they're hardly even newsworthy these days...Just another maniac, just another Tuesday.

    I mean, you bring up a good point. It's like terrorism. You have a greater chance of getting clipped by a bus stepping off the curb. On the other hand, we have at least attempted to curtail terrorism (though not with any measurable success), while this crap just keeps going on and on.

    It's like something out of a JG Ballard book. Mass shootings as filler between the main stories.
    We could possibly save hundreds of lives if we somehow could make all guns disappear from America, from good and bad people alike, and we could save tens of thousands of lives if we could make all alcohol disappear from America. Why do people not talk about alcohol-related deaths as much as gun related deaths, especially since abuse of alcohol kills ten times more people than do guns?

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