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West Virginia says, "Come on over" to certain Virginia counties

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Omg how I love West Virginia. We're moving to the Charleston area in a few years and I can't wait.


HCR 8 Text


Whereas, In recent days, these tensions have been compounded by a perception of contempt on the part of the government at Richmond for the differences in certain fundamental political and societal principles which prevail between the varied counties and cities of that Commonwealth; and

Whereas, In the latest, and most evident, in this string of grievances, the government at Richmond now seeks to place intolerable restraints upon the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution to the citizens of that Commonwealth; and

Whereas, The Legislative body of West Virginia believes that this latest action defies the wise counsel which has come down to us in the august words of our common Virginia Founders: as the government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of that tribune of liberty, Patrick Henry-who stated to the Virginia Ratifying Convention in 1788 that “The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun”; and

Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of a Signer of the Declaration and premier advocate of American independence, Richard Henry Lee-who stated in The Federal Farmer that “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms”; and

Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of that zealous guardian of our inherent rights, George Mason-who stated that “To disarm the people…s the most effectual way to enslave them”; and

Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of the declaimer of our independence and theoretician of our freedoms, Thomas Jefferson-who stated in his first draft of the Virginia Constitution, that “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms”; and

Whereas, The Boards of Supervisors of many Virginia counties and the Councils of many Virginia cities have recognized this dangerous departure from the doctrine of the Founders on the part of the government at Richmond; and

Whereas, These Boards of Supervisors and Councils have passed resolutions refusing to countenance what they affirm are unwarranted and unconstitutional measures by that government to infringe the firearm rights of Virginians; and

Whereas, The actions of the government at Richmond undertaken since the recent general election have, regrettably, resulted in unproductive contention and escalating a lamentable state of civic tension; and

Whereas, That, as has been proven in numerous instances, such as have been observed internationally in more recent times with the peaceful dissolutions of Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union, and the creation of South Sudan, or, earlier in Virginia’s own history, with the formation of Kentucky, the peaceful partition of neighboring peoples can occur, and, is often very beneficial to both sides in reducing tensions and improving the tenor of discourse over ongoing political and societal differences; and
 
Almost heaven.
 
Omg how I love West Virginia. We're moving to the Charleston area in a few years and I can't wait.


HCR 8 Text

Between the obesity rates, terrible economy, high rates of religion, mountaintop removal, and overall stupidity of its citizens, why the hell would anyone want to join the ****hole known as West Virginia? :lol:
 
Between the obesity rates, terrible economy, high rates of religion, mountaintop removal, and overall stupidity of its citizens, why the hell would anyone want to join the ****hole known as West Virginia? :lol:

....for the dental plan?
 
Between the obesity rates,

I'm in shape, I don't really care if other people are fat.

terrible economy,

Self-employed, and my business is such that the local economy doesn't matter.

high rates of religion,

More precisely, high rates of Christianity - you know, like the Nordic countries you want the US to emulate. If there were high rates of Islam, you'd have a point.

mountaintop removal,

I agree that's bad, but it takes place mostly in a few counties, and coal production will continue to wind down anyway.

why the hell would anyone want to join the ****hole known as West Virginia?

For us it's the beautiful land, the very low taxes, and low regulation.
 
I'm in shape, I don't really care if other people are fat.

Self-employed, and my business is such that the local economy doesn't matter.

More precisely, high rates of Christianity - you know, like the Nordic countries you want the US to emulate. If there were high rates of Islam, you'd have a point.

I agree that's bad, but it takes place mostly in a few counties, and coal production will continue to wind down anyway.

For us it's the beautiful land, the very low taxes, and low regulation.
:lamo

Let's take a look at how your "beautiful" West Virginia is doing on quality-of-life scales.

-Life expectancy: 2nd worst only to Mississippi. If it were a country, it would rank in 80th place, behind Mauritius and just ahead of Belarus.
-American Human Development Index: 3rd worst, ahead of only AR and MS.
-Median household income: Dead last.
-Obesity: 2nd worst only to Mississippi (again).
-Teacher salaries: 2nd lowest only to South Dakota.
-Divorce rates: 6th worst. Note that the highest nine divorce rates come from Red states and the lowest seven come from Blue states.

Tell me again what's so great about living in podunk West Virginia? :lol:
 
The funny part of your post is that you are such a collectivist, it doesn't even occur to you that nothing you listed below affects me in any way. Like virtually all progressives, you can only think in terms of groups.

:lamo

Let's take a look at how your "beautiful" West Virginia is doing on quality-of-life scales.

-Life expectancy: 2nd worst only to Mississippi. If it were a country, it would rank in 80th place, behind Mauritius and just ahead of Belarus.
-American Human Development Index: 3rd worst, ahead of only AR and MS.
-Median household income: Dead last.
-Obesity: 2nd worst only to Mississippi (again).

None of this matters to me, why would it?

-Teacher salaries: 2nd lowest only to South Dakota.

Awesome! My kids never stepped foot in a government-run skool. West Virginia is on the right track, but they need to beat South Dakota.

-Divorce rates: 6th worst. Note that the highest nine divorce rates come from Red states and the lowest seven come from Blue states.

Who cares? My marriage is great.

Tell me again what's so great about living in podunk West Virginia?

I'll take podunk WV any day of the week over SJW liberal land where your property taxes are higher than your mortgage.
 
Omg how I love West Virginia. We're moving to the Charleston area in a few years and I can't wait.
The sister-wife state forgot to include “whereas West Virginia’s average income is $44K (VA is $71K), unemployment rate is 4.9% (VA is 2.6%), we really need more taxable income.”

And regarding violent crimes, in a USA Today survey of reported crimes by state, WV came in at #31 (list sorted most violent - safest). VA came in at #47.
Most Dangerous States in America - 24/7 Wall St.

I hope you enjoy living in WV. :2wave:
 
More precisely, high rates of Christianity - you know, like the Nordic countries you want the US to emulate. If there were high rates of Islam, you'd have a point.

Scandinavian countries have very LOW rates of religion, and high rates of Atheism.
 
Scandinavian countries have very LOW rates of religion, and high rates of Atheism.

Finland is a predominantly Christian nation where some 71.9% of the 5.5 million overall population follow Christianity

Religion in Norway is mostly Lutheran Christianity, with 69.9% of the population belonging to the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway in 2018. The Catholic Church is the next largest Christian church at 3.0%.
 
Between the obesity rates, terrible economy, high rates of religion, mountaintop removal, and overall stupidity of its citizens, why the hell would anyone want to join the ****hole known as West Virginia? :lol:

Because a certain ilk thinks like you.
 
The sister-wife state forgot to include “whereas West Virginia’s average income is $44K (VA is $71K), unemployment rate is 4.9% (VA is 2.6%), we really need more taxable income.”

And regarding violent crimes, in a USA Today survey of reported crimes by state, WV came in at #31 (list sorted most violent - safest). VA came in at #47.
Most Dangerous States in America - 24/7 Wall St.

I hope you enjoy living in WV. :2wave:

Amazing how the poorest sections of society can be persuaded to vote Republican and bear arms to fight tyranny....as they search their pockets for enough cash to buy another packet of cigarettes.
 
Finland is a predominantly Christian nation where some 71.9% of the 5.5 million overall population follow Christianity

Religion in Norway is mostly Lutheran Christianity, with 69.9% of the population belonging to the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway in 2018. The Catholic Church is the next largest Christian church at 3.0%.
You may want look beyond Wikipedia for your statistics.

“Only 2% of the Norwegian population regularly attend church, and around 70% are members of the Church of Norway. Up to 25% of the population is non-religious and do not believe in either God or other higher powers, and have no everyday rituals related to religion,” Urstad says.
Most non-religious Norwegians are members of the Church of Norway - Universitetet i Agder

One of several easily located references.
 
Before Virginia turned blues, northern virginia used to talk about leaving the state. Maybe now is a good time to divide it in half.
 
Amazing how the poorest sections of society can be persuaded to vote Republican and bear arms to fight tyranny....as they search their pockets for enough cash to buy another packet of cigarettes.
The stupid deserve what they get.
 
A conscientious government would seek to protect the stupid too.
Every time an idiot injures or kills themselves (and/or others) by misusing a product, lawsuits fly and new laws/regulations are put in place. If anything, our government is guilty of becoming a nanny state that limits the actions of the many because of the stupidity of a minority.

You sound like a rabid RW nut who declares that suicidal people should just be left to it....
:lamo You're too sensitive. My comment was far from “rabid”.
 
Every time an idiot injures or kills themselves (and/or others) by misusing a product, lawsuits fly and new laws/regulations are put in place. If anything, our government is guilty of becoming a nanny state that limits the actions of the many because of the stupidity of a minority.

There are a surfeit of frivolous law suits, that is true and it dilutes the power they have to fight big organizations that simply don't care about us.

People smoke and drink too much...they don't get enough health insurance

Result, they suffer and we pay.

You really don't have a clue how this affects you


...you're too sensitive. My comment was far from “rabid”.


So you think suicidal people are worth protecting against themselves ?
 
:lamo

Let's take a look at how your "beautiful" West Virginia is doing on quality-of-life scales.

-Life expectancy: 2nd worst only to Mississippi. If it were a country, it would rank in 80th place, behind Mauritius and just ahead of Belarus.
-American Human Development Index: 3rd worst, ahead of only AR and MS.
-Median household income: Dead last.
-Obesity: 2nd worst only to Mississippi (again).
-Teacher salaries: 2nd lowest only to South Dakota.
-Divorce rates: 6th worst. Note that the highest nine divorce rates come from Red states and the lowest seven come from Blue states.

Tell me again what's so great about living in podunk West Virginia? :lol:

Hey at least it beats out New York on median income adjusedt for regional price parity
 
There are a surfeit of frivolous law suits, that is true and it dilutes the power they have to fight big organizations that simply don't care about us.

People smoke and drink too much...they don't get enough health insurance

Result, they suffer and we pay.

You really don't have a clue how this affects you
You’re not paying attention. You have essentially parroted my last post.
 
You’re not paying attention. You have essentially parroted my last post.

No you're backtracking now

You care for little about people, dismissing them as "stupid"

"...our government is guilty of becoming a nanny state that limits the actions of the many because of the stupidity of a minority."




My last question went unanswered: So you think suicidal people are worth protecting against themselves ?
 
No you're backtracking now

You care for little about people, dismissing them as "stupid"

"...our government is guilty of becoming a nanny state that limits the actions of the many because of the stupidity of a minority."
If you can show how your last post differs substantively mine, please explain how.

My last question went unanswered: So you think suicidal people are worth protecting against themselves ?
Whenever possible.
 
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