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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    Any non-functional rifles in that maintenance unit were probably due to those rifles not being maintained, ironically enough.
    Of course

    And in a maintenance company of professional soldiers, not some conscript or uneducated hills tribesman.

    And the M-16 was too difficult for an entire company of professional soldiers to maintain so it functioned. Not one soldier had a functioning weapon and you think there's not an issue with it, or are you saying American soldiers are so poor ?


    You'd think that when in "bandit country" even the most stupid REMF would see the need to have his/her gun functional - and we saw an entire company without a functional gun between them.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    Any non-functional rifles in that maintenance unit were probably due to those rifles not being maintained, ironically enough.
    Poor maintenance is the usual culprit of m16 failure, they are gas fed therefor require regular cleaning to prevent from being jammed by carbon buildup, and in desert environments they need to be very lightly oiled, a common mistake I had seen was the spray bottle of clp used to lubricate the internals, but both sand and carbon stick to oil, therefore using proper amounts of oil was key, but usually the failure was them not cleaning them at all and just spraying clp down the barrel until they ended up so crudded they would not function.
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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Of course

    And in a maintenance company of professional soldiers, not some conscript or uneducated hills tribesman.

    And the M-16 was too difficult for an entire company of professional soldiers to maintain so it functioned. Not one soldier had a functioning weapon and you think there's not an issue with it, or are you saying American soldiers are so poor ?


    You'd think that when in "bandit country" even the most stupid REMF would see the need to have his/her gun functional - and we saw an entire company without a functional gun between them.
    It is common in the military to perform poor cleaning, I myself practiced it and was taught to soak the parts in clp after the cleaning was done then wipe it down with a rag to only leave a light film to prevent sand dust and carbon from clumping up on it. But to say the least I dealt with enough details cleaning armory weapons turned in in haste to realize many soldiers will not clean their rifles unless forced to, and in haste often when xyz mission dictates there was not enough time to inspect every rifle for proper cleaning before turn in, which is where the details ended up being selected which was to clean the jacked up rifles after turn in.

    Worst cleanup was before a comet inspection, found an entire rack one of the arms room personel accepted that were filthy like they had fired thousands of rounds without cleaning, I ended up having to soak them in wd-40 against the armies clp standard to break parts free they were so jammed with carbon. Myself I prefer to have guns functioning for when I need them which is always a life or death situation if you need your rifle to function in the army. In afghanistan I unloaded mags once a month and reloaded them to ensure they had full spring tension, and cleaned the rifle at minimum weekly even if not ever fired to ensure proper function, as well as performing the very simple functions check.
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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    So you compromise and give in, and more "common sense" gun control laws are passed. Afterwards:

    If gun violence goes up or remains the same, that's evidence that still more gun control laws are needed.

    If gun violence goes down, that's evidence that gun control works - hence more gun control laws are needed to reduce gun violence further.

    Compromising on gun rights is foolish. Give a filthy leftist an inch, and he'll take a mile and a half every time.
    When there's true compromise both sides gain something, both sides give something up.

    Simply passing more restrictive gun laws is not compromise, its giving the gun control crowd what they want.

    For there to be compromise you would also have to give the gun rights crowd stuff they want.

    For instance, when the bump stock ban was passed if they also passed national reciprocity along with it that would be compromise.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    However, I don't think ALL fireworks should be banned. In Nevada where I live at all fireworks are banned, including ground based fireworks like fountains.
    Are you sure you meant to say Nevada and not New Jersey? What you just talked about sounds much more like New Jersey.

    Sometimes I go to Front Sight in Nevada on the 4th of July, they set off a ton of fireworks.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    In the USA a mass shooting at over one per days seems easily bearable to the gun owning lobby. In fact I don't think any level of mass shootings will change their mind
    No it won't, deal with it.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    TI know the excuse they used. One or two mass shootings and idiots let their governments disarm over something that almost never happened.
    That's their problem. Its a good thing that will never happen here in the good old USA.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if people like you outbreed people who support freedom, who knows what will happen. Personally, I think we will have a civil war on firearms and when it is over, the anti gun movement will no longer exist
    The enemy always has been here and always will be here.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Of course

    And in a maintenance company of professional soldiers, not some conscript or uneducated hills tribesman.

    And the M-16 was too difficult for an entire company of professional soldiers to maintain so it functioned. Not one soldier had a functioning weapon and you think there's not an issue with it, or are you saying American soldiers are so poor ?


    You'd think that when in "bandit country" even the most stupid REMF would see the need to have his/her gun functional - and we saw an entire company without a functional gun between them.
    Do you have something to back up that claim that not one soldier in that company had a functioning weapon?
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    Freedom is overrated.

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    Re: Why compromise is stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    Are you sure you meant to say Nevada and not New Jersey? What you just talked about sounds much more like New Jersey.

    Sometimes I go to Front Sight in Nevada on the 4th of July, they set off a ton of fireworks.
    No I meant Nevada and I was talking about setting off fireworks myself not going to a show.
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