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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Only the less Patriotic, unorganized militia complains about gun control.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Only the less Patriotic, unorganized militia complains about gun control.
    you plan on voting in the poll?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you plan on voting in the poll?
    Even our Civil War proved beyond any shadow of any doubt; Only well regulated militia of the United States may not be Infringed, regardless of all of the other ones.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Even our Civil War proved beyond any shadow of any doubt; Only well regulated militia of the United States may not be Infringed, regardless of all of the other ones.
    more silly bot speak that has no relevance nor value in this discussion. The right of the people may not be infringed, there is nothing about infringing on militia-which does not have a "right"
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Even our Civil War proved beyond any shadow of any doubt; Only well regulated militia of the United States may not be Infringed, regardless of all of the other ones.
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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    You deliberately missed out the bit about in order the preserve a "well regulated militia".


    Would a "well regulated militia" arm its members with a zillion kinds of gun with a hundred different calibers ?

    The 2nd amendment was written when men were armed with rifled muskets and is a relic of the 18th century....just like the concept of a militia.
    It doesn't say anything about preserving a well-regulated militia.

    It says, in a nutshell, that a well-regulated (i.e. well-prepared) militia is necessary to secure the freedom of our country, and therefore the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Most importantly, there's nothing in either of these statements that conditions the right to bear arms on the existence of the militia.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    You need to know your history. They had more than just muskets.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The authors of the 2nd Amendment never envisioned the automatic weapons available today, mass shootings, armed teachers, and a shameful murder rate.
    OK I'm going to trot this out. The authors of the 2nd Amendment never envisioned envisioned cellphones and computers let alone the internet and how about those automated printing presses. All available today.

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Even our Civil War proved beyond any shadow of any doubt; Only well regulated militia of the United States may not be Infringed, regardless of all of the other ones.
    What does that have to do with whether or not you plan on voting?

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    Re: 'Shall Not Be Infringed' - What Do These Words Really Mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Concept stew.
    He plain old took a wrong turn somewhere.

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