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    Re: Is it really guns, or is it drugs?

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    That's out of date, he fessed up a bit later. It was as shocking a revelation as George Michael coming out of the closet
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    Re: Is it really guns, or is it drugs?

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    That's out of date, he fessed up a bit later. It was as shocking a revelation as George Michael coming out of the closet
    He did ?


    When was that ?

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    Re: Is it really guns, or is it drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog21 View Post
    But marijuana is so widely used that if there was a link to psychosis it must be on such a small scale to have such a low trend. Maybe there is part not mentioned here like a long time every day abuse for 10+ years that leads to a greater chance of psychosis. Im interested in this being explored but I think the outcome will be that the link is to little to matter, and this is coming from someone who doesn't like legalization of it.

    There already is a scientifically proven link between marijuana and psychosis that abounds in recent scientific literature. Have a look. How rare? The problem is how you define psychosis, yet I think that ALL users are affected mentally to some degree or another. So likely imho there is a whole gamut of mental alterations that occur- from extremely mild to very severe- at some point which you define it as psychosis. Fortunately, the effects on the vast majority of users is not severe. I appreciate your frankness, btw.

    And that's the point Berenson is making. We know most of the murderous sociopaths use marijuana, so why not explore the possibility that their use affected their mental states over time that eventually culminate in violent outbreaks? Are we going to let the pot lobby dictate what we are to think? The potential with that angle truly is potentially revolutionary to our understanding about violent crime.

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    Re: Is it really guns, or is it drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by MZ007 View Post
    There already is a scientifically proven link between marijuana and psychosis that abounds in recent scientific literature. Have a look. How rare? The problem is how you define psychosis, yet I think that ALL users are affected mentally to some degree or another. So likely imho there is a whole gamut of mental alterations that occur- from extremely mild to very severe- at some point which you define it as psychosis. Fortunately, the effects on the vast majority of users is not severe. I appreciate your frankness, btw.

    And that's the point Berenson is making. We know most of the murderous sociopaths use marijuana, so why not explore the possibility that their use affected their mental states over time that eventually culminate in violent outbreaks? Are we going to let the pot lobby dictate what we are to think? The potential with that angle truly is potentially revolutionary to our understanding about violent crime.
    That was something that the link I read about the Portuguese experiment to legalize all drugs didn't mention marijuana but instead focused on the harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

    On balance, even after the positive tone of the review of Portugal's experiment with legalizing all drugs, I am resistant to to decriminalization of drugs. - including marijuana.

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