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    Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    US mass killings hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    The first one occurred 19 days into the new year when a man used an ax to kill four family members including his infant daughter. Five months later, 12 people were killed in a workplace shooting in Virginia. Twenty-two more died at a Walmart in El Paso in August.

    A database compiled by The Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University shows that there were more mass killings in 2019 than any year dating back to at least the 1970s, punctuated by a chilling succession of deadly rampages during the summer.
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    While an ax was involved in at least one incident, guns are the major contributor to this statistic.
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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    From the OP article.

    "The majority of the killings involved people who knew each other — family disputes, drug or gang violence or people with beefs that directed their anger at co-workers or relatives."

    My take from the article is mass murders will occur with or without firearms. The lead off murder was done with an ax. Eliminating guns will not stop mass murders.
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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Eliminating guns will not stop mass murders.
    Exactly!

    There are a lot of angry and unhappy people in this country.

    Things are only going to get even worse in the coming decades.

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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    From the OP article.

    "The majority of the killings involved people who knew each other — family disputes, drug or gang violence or people with beefs that directed their anger at co-workers or relatives."

    My take from the article is mass murders will occur with or without firearms. The lead off murder was done with an ax. Eliminating guns will not stop mass murders.
    Neither will continuing to sell more guns, especially military-style assault rifles with one main design function: killing people rather than sport or target shooting. The NRA's 'a good man with a gun' would not have stopped most of these mass killings, as in crowded venues like malls, schools & darkened movie theaters.

    Two young neighbors are both teachers & neither one is interested in being armed in their classrooms.
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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    California, a state with some of the strictest gun laws, had the most instances of mass shootings. Proving that these tough gun laws harass law abiding citizens and allow anti rights people to feel good about themselves as if they did something, but in reality are not very effective in reducing mass shootings. We don’t have a gun problem, we have a people being short tempered assholes willing to kill problem.

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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Neither will continuing to sell more guns, especially military-style assault rifles with one main design function: killing people. The NRA's 'a good man with a gun' would not have stopped most of these mass killings, as in crowded venues like malls & darkened movie theaters.
    "Military style assault rifles" is a label used to frighten people. Calling what is otherwise a basic semi-automatic rifle something akin to what someone in the army uses simply because it "looks scary."

    As for "a good guy with a gun would not...", how the devil do you know this?

    The fact is that towns and cities all over this nation have all sorts of local stories showing a "good guy/gal with a gun" has stopped crimes of all kinds. Including those where criminals were armed with all sorts of weapons.

    You don't hear about them in national news because they are not as news-worthy as the few "high profile" uses that were not prevented.

    We have millions of guns in the hands of millions of Americans, and yet a fraction of a fraction are used in crimes, and an even smaller fraction of THAT fraction are "mass killings."

    Your argument is "disarm everyone" because there are a few...VERY few someone's who do something naughty. :
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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    US mass killings hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    The first one occurred 19 days into the new year when a man used an ax to kill four family members including his infant daughter. Five months later, 12 people were killed in a workplace shooting in Virginia. Twenty-two more died at a Walmart in El Paso in August.

    A database compiled by The Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University shows that there were more mass killings in 2019 than any year dating back to at least the 1970s, punctuated by a chilling succession of deadly rampages during the summer.
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    While an ax was involved in at least one incident, guns are the major contributor to this statistic.
    People are the major contributor to this statistic.

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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Mass killings in the US are nothing compared to mass killings over the rest of the world. How many mass graves are discovered in the US in a given decade compared to the rest of the world?

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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    "Military style assault rifles" is a label used to frighten-people. Calling what is otherwise a basic semi-automatic rifle something akin to what someone in the army uses simply because it "looks scary."

    As for "a good guy with a gun would not...", how the devil do you know this?

    The fact is that towns and cities all over this nation have all sorts of local stories showing a "good guy/gal with a gun" has stopped crimes of all kinds. Including those where criminals were armed with all sorts of weapons.

    You don't hear about them in national news because they are not as news-worthy as the few "high profile" uses that were not prevented.

    We have millions of guns in the hands of millions of Americans, and yet a fraction of a fraction are used in crimes, and an even smaller fraction of THAT fraction are "mass killings."
    A 'good guy with a gun' in a crowded & darkened movie theater could create more mayhem than just the initial shooter by himself. When the cops show up, how do they differentiate the 'good guy' from the loony in the adrenaline-fed haze of a mass shooting? Anyone with a gun becomes a police target in such situations.
    Last edited by JacksinPA; 12-28-19 at 11:52 AM.
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    Re: Mass killings in US. hit new high in 2019, most were shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    While an ax was involved in at least one incident, guns are the major contributor to this statistic.
    What else contributes? What causes people to pick up inanimate objects and use them to kill people?
    Not R or D 2020

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