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[W:195]Wexton bill would use credit card data to track firearms purchases

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Rich2018 said:
Well that's true, you don't 1.

Because it take large resourced to build an ordnance factory, not to mentional skilled labor. 2.

And any underground arms factory is easily found as it can't move. 3.

No, criminals will stick to drugs, not go in for arms manufacture. 4.

Exactly how do you build a rifle from the ground up ? 5.

Oh and bolt action rifles are still legal in the UK 6.

What is your engineering experience, have you even graduated High School yet ? 7.

People have been building guns for "millennia" huh ? 8.

I would love to see you post a picture of a 2,000 year old gun.
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1. I support my arguments. You should try it.

2. Irrelevant. Home made guns do not require an "ordnance factory". And unskilled workers were pressed into manufacture in WWII for the Sten, PS-43, etc. 1 skilled + many unskilled = job done.

3. Irrelevant. Home made guns do not require an "ordnance factory"

4. Irrelevant. The guns are not for monetary gain (yet) for the criminals element in Australia.

5. With tools and steel.

6. So what?

7. 20+ USMC Aviation Ordnanceman. Prior to that minor gunsmithing. Built two black power pistols from kits. And I still do minor gunsmithing.

8. Correction. 7+ centuries. You get a point.
 
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Rich2018 said:
By all means, you can continue to defend gun ownership on the ground that any gun ban would be made useless by a surge in home made gun production.
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Well I defend gun ownership because it's a constitutional right.

I'm not anti rights and freedoms.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes they are - Google images of home made guns.

They look crude and are nothing like a modern, factory produced, firearm.

Certainly nothing capable of derailing a hypothetical gun ban in the USA.

Because even under the draconian UK gun laws, they're still legal to make and buy.
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A functional firearm need not look professional or pretty.

You didn't go to the link about Afghanistan rifles (Khyber Pass rifles). They have been copying British rifles for quite some time now. Some so good you have to know exactly what to look for.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes they are - Google images of home made guns.

They look crude and are nothing like a modern, factory produced, firearm.

Certainly nothing capable of derailing a hypothetical gun ban in the USA.





Because even under the draconian UK gun laws, they're still legal to make and buy.
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Yeah.. I googled home made guns. And guess what.. while some of them are crude... most of the ones you see.. especially the "ghost guns".. are indistinguishable from a firearm manufactured in a large factory.

And you should google custom guns. Those guns are made in individuals machine shops. those guns are above and beyond in quality from what is manufactured in a large scale factory
 
Rich2018 said:
I call BS on it - I have actually fired a Lee Enfield No 4, I don't believe it can be built in a back yard machine shop in Afghanistan.
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Your belief is irrelevant because it is fact that the Khyber Rifles exist. Simple incredulity.

Rich2018 said:
Besides why make a bolt action rifle ?
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Because they have done so for decades. It is what they know.

Rich2018 said:
Nope, you need a proper ordnance factory
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Completely busted by the fact the Khyber Rifles exist.
 
Fledermaus said:
Your belief is irrelevant because it is fact that the Khyber Rifles exist. Simple incredulity.



Because they have done so for decades. It is what they know.



Completely busted by the fact the Khyber Rifles exist.
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You post above has been reported again.

Those rifles are almost certainly a repair job done to existing, damaged rifles. I suspect that perhaps the stock was replaced.
 
Rich2018 said:
You post above has been reported again.

Those rifles are almost certainly a repair job done to existing, damaged rifles. I suspect that perhaps the stock was replaced.
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Incorrect.

Had you read the links provided you would know that is not true.

Or you have read them and are playing stupid.

And why would you report this post?

Read my signature.
 
Fledermaus said:
Incorrect.

Had you read the links provided you would know that is not true.

Or you have read them and are playing stupid.

And why would you report this post?

Read my signature.
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Your vitriol is ignored.

Those guns were repair jobs.
 
Rich2018 said:
You post above has been reported again.

Those rifles are almost certainly a repair job done to existing, damaged rifles. I suspect that perhaps the stock was replaced.
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No they are not.
 
Fledermaus said:
Why do you insist that?

Your evidence?

Link?

Citation?

The "playing stupid" game is making you look silly.
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Because I know what's required to do basic engineering. You don't.

You never answered, have you graduated high school yet ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Because I know what's required to do basic engineering. You don't.

You never answered, have you graduated high school yet ?
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What engineering do you think needs to be done on a firearm?

Honestly.. you demonstrate that you don't even have a basic understanding of firearms.
 
Rich2018 said:
I'd bet money on it.

Lee Enfield rifles are fairly common in that part of the world, I can imagine a cottage industry in repairing them.
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And you would lose..

And a cottage industry of building them from an existing pattern. Its more than 100 year old technology. You seem to have a serious intellectual disconnect here....
 
Rich2018 said:
Because I know what's required to do basic engineering. You don't.
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You are incorrect. You don't understand the basic engineering required to make a workable firearm.

Rich2018 said:
You never answered, have you graduated high school yet ?
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Post #326 - To enter the United States Marine Corps requires a high school diploma. On top of that after retirement I receive a BA from a California University and a year post grad.... And you?
 
Rich2018 said:
I'd bet money on it.

Lee Enfield rifles are fairly common in that part of the world, I can imagine a cottage industry in repairing them.
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A Khyber Pass copy is a firearm manufactured by cottage gunsmiths in the Khyber Pass region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
 
Fledermaus said:
You are incorrect. You don't understand the basic engineering required to make a workable firearm....
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I think I do

And what might be "workable" is a far cry from a factory made firearm you can buy in a gun shop.



To enter the United States Marine Corps requires a high school diploma. On top of that after retirement I receive a BA from a California University and a year post grad.... And you?
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So you did finish high school and got a degree - what was it in?

I got a BA in economics.


Except they aren't repairs....

A Khyber Pass copy is a firearm manufactured by cottage gunsmiths in the Khyber Pass region between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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I doubt very much it's from scratch.

They must use parts of rifles as a starting point.
 
jaeger19 said:
And you would lose..

And a cottage industry of building them from an existing pattern. Its more than 100 year old technology. You seem to have a serious intellectual disconnect here....
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I doubt it - they must start with a factory made basis and build on top of it.

I really don't see how they can make a rifled barrel.
 
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