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Another Good Guy with a Gun...

TurtleDude said:
wrong-why don't you tell everyone what your intentions are for this thread? it is to smear gun owners because you are mad that gun owners helped elect Trump. Most of those gun deaths involve suicides and banned (from owning guns) people shooting other criminals.
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My intention is to point out another good guy with a gun killed an even better person without one, thereby putting to an end the canard about these supposed good guys with guns.
 
Tlrmln said:
It's not death that would be prevented by eliminating guns.
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Do we know that? Seems to be less likely that they would have chosen more complicated measures, seeing as ow they didn't.
 
calamity said:
My intention is to point out another good guy with a gun killed an even better person without one, thereby putting to an end the canard about these supposed good guys with guns.
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that doesn't work. The "good guy" committed a crime and you cannot HONESTLY smear millions of good people who own guns with the ILLEGAL actions of one person. Your stupid attempt to smear only would work if MOST or even a SUBSTANTIAL MINORITY of legal gun owners did this sort of thing. They don't-this was an aberration
 
TurtleDude said:
that doesn't work. The "good guy" committed a crime and you cannot HONESTLY smear millions of good people who own guns with the ILLEGAL actions of one person. Your stupid attempt to smear only would work if MOST or even a SUBSTANTIAL MINORITY of legal gun owners did this sort of thing. They don't-this was an aberration
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Bottom line is that lots of "good guys" with guns are killing innocent people. I will continue posting them as they happen.
 
TurtleDude said:
more silly attempts to smear all gun owners because of the stupidity of one. BTW I believe it is illegal to have a loaded rifle in a car. It is in Ohio even if you have a CCW. recent legal changes allow you to have loaded magazines in a bag, but not inserted in the firearm. So someone violated a law before the woman was shot
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you know this was in indiana and not ohio
 
TurtleDude said:
40,000 out of 100 million gun owners and 400 million guns

of those 40 K, about 26-30K are suicides.

Of the 10,000 or so felonious homicides, 8000 or more are caused by people who were already violating 18 USC 922 by merely possessing a firearm. of the remaining few thousand, some are justifiable (ie good shootings) or excusable (no legal liability). That leaves less than a couple thousand that your complaining applies to
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collateral damage
only a few thousand lives
 
calamity said:
Are 40,000 people dying each year from kids chucking concrete blocks onto highways?

Fail
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Are 40,000 people dying each year from stupid kids who cannot handle their weapons?

Fail
 
calamity said:
Bottom line is that lots of "good guys" with guns are killing innocent people. I will continue posting them as they happen.
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of course you will, you are mad that gun owners helped elect Obama. and someone who committed a crime is not a "good guy". Of course you have claimed three drug gang members who -while trying to kill another gang banger-hit a young child, were "good guys with guns" so your claims cannot be seen as honest.
 
justabubba said:
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collateral damage
only a few thousand lives
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given how many other things kill innocent people-it is hard to believe those who whine constantly about gun ownership are motivated about saving lives-rather than political agendas
 
justabubba said:
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you know this was in indiana and not ohio
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is it legal to be handling a loaded rifle in a moving motor vehicle in Indiana?
 
calamity said:
Do we know that? Seems to be less likely that they would have chosen more complicated measures, seeing as ow they didn't.
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There's nothing "more complicated" about driving into a tree at 90mph.
 
TurtleDude said:
given how many other things kill innocent people-it is hard to believe those who whine constantly about gun ownership are motivated about saving lives-rather than political agendas
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i get it

to you, a few thousand lives needlessly lost is insignificant
 
AProudLefty said:
Are 40,000 people dying each year from stupid kids who cannot handle their weapons?

Fail
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"In 2016 there were 161,374 deaths from unintentional injuries, the overall 3rd ranking cause of death that year.

From 2006-2016, almost 6,885 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings. In 2016 alone, there were 495 incidents of accidental firearm deaths.
Accidental gun deaths occur mainly in those under 25 years old. In 2014, 2,549 children (age 0-19) died by gunshot and an additional 13,576 were injured.
Adolescents are particularly susceptible to accidental shootings due to specific behavioral characteristics associated with adolescence, such as impulsivity, feelings of invincibility, and curiosity about firearms.

In the US, over 1.69 million kids age 18 and under are living in households with loaded and unlocked firearms, setting the scene for possible tragedy if firearms are not locked and stored properly.
A study from 2014 showed that those people that died from accidental shooting were more than three times as likely to have had a firearm in their home as those in the control.
A 2001 study found that regardless of age, people are nine times more likely to die from unintentional firearm injuries when they live in states with more guns, relative to states with fewer guns.

The number of deaths due to firearms each year is gathered using death certificates and medical examiner reports. Firearm deaths include homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. The Centers for Disease Control’s National Center for Health Statistics publishes statistics in a mortality database that includes causes of deaths determined by coroners, medical examiners, and attending physicians..."



Examining Accidental Shooting Death Statistics
 
TurtleDude said:
is it legal to be handling a loaded rifle in a moving motor vehicle in Indiana?
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you should find a competent attorney and direct that legal question at them
 
justabubba said:
i get it

to you, a few thousand lives needlessly lost is insignificant
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when people who dishonestly claim they are motivated by saving lives-yet they only whine about guns, I call bs on that.
 
justabubba said:
you should find a competent attorney and direct that legal question at them
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I suspect it is not. Do you know differently? most states ban such activities for obvious reasons.
 
TurtleDude said:
is it legal to be handling a loaded rifle in a moving motor vehicle in Indiana?
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Likely not, but if the rifle is not discharged in/from that moving vehicle then it is extremely likely to remain unnoticed.
 
Rich2018 said:
Next to him keeping his highly prized toys, it not.
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see, that comment proves my point. You loathe the gun culture, and hide your loathing by a facade of carrying for"innocents"
 
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