Joy Behar Implores Dems to 'Wait Until You Get Elected and Then Take the Guns Away'

jamesrage · Nov 10, 2019

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that anyone calling for the ban on semiautomatic firearms wants to take them away. After all these same people praise the gun control laws of the UK and Australia where they banned openly banned semiautomatic firearms and took them away. If she thinks politicians lying and or not revealing their intentions until they get into office is a good idea then she should imagine someone running as pro-open borders, socialist, pro-abortion and other **** that the left supports and then bam what that person is elected to office he does the complete opposite.

Joy Behar Implores Dems to 'Wait Until You Get Elected and Then Take the Guns Away'

"The View" host Joy Behar told Democrats to not tell Americans their plans for gun control and to wait to take away firearms until after they are elected on Monday.
The panel was discussing the recent dropouts of the 2020 Democratic primary and who might be next after former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke ended his campaign on Friday.
"Beto, when my husband told me he got out of the race, I think he’s actually like a beta test for why going so national and being beloved by the media is so dangerous," host Meghan McCain said.
McCain said despite how much he had raised during the Texas Senate race and the large amount of staff he got for his presidential run, his chances were killed when he proposed a mandatory compensated confiscation of AR-15s and revoking religious institutions' tax exempt status if they didn’t support same-sex marriage.

Mycroft · Nov 10, 2019

jamesrage said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that anyone calling for the ban on semiautomatic firearms wants to take them away. After all these same people praise the gun control laws of the UK and Australia where they banned openly banned semiautomatic firearms and took them away. If she thinks politicians lying and or not revealing their intentions until they get into office is a good idea then she should imagine someone running as pro-open borders, socialist, pro-abortion and other **** that the left supports and then bam what that person is elected to office he does the complete opposite.

Joy Behar Implores Dems to 'Wait Until You Get Elected and Then Take the Guns Away'

"The View" host Joy Behar told Democrats to not tell Americans their plans for gun control and to wait to take away firearms until after they are elected on Monday.
The panel was discussing the recent dropouts of the 2020 Democratic primary and who might be next after former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke ended his campaign on Friday.
"Beto, when my husband told me he got out of the race, I think he’s actually like a beta test for why going so national and being beloved by the media is so dangerous," host Meghan McCain said.
McCain said despite how much he had raised during the Texas Senate race and the large amount of staff he got for his presidential run, his chances were killed when he proposed a mandatory compensated confiscation of AR-15s and revoking religious institutions' tax exempt status if they didn’t support same-sex marriage.

The departed McCain did what Behar advocates, but he did it with repeal of Obamacare.

This is standard operating procedure for Congressional pukes.

Rich2018 · Nov 10, 2019

jamesrage said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that anyone calling for the ban on semiautomatic firearms wants to take them away....

Of course and fully auto guns and all hand guns

In fact it's simpler to list what would be allowed:

Muzzle loading guns
Single shot, bolt action rifles
Single or double barreled shotguns above a certain length
Pump action shotguns with a maximum magazine capacity of 2 - above a certain length.

Chillfolks · Nov 10, 2019

Rich2018 said:
Of course and fully auto guns and all hand guns

In fact it's simpler to list what would be allowed:

Muzzle loading guns
Single shot, bolt action rifles
Single or double barreled shotguns above a certain length
Pump action shotguns with a maximum magazine capacity of 2 - above a certain length.

That’s as stupid as saying Free Speech should be limited to The spoken word or printed material using a manual type set press.

But to humor you lets try a test pilot program that anyone protecting a Democrat or security personnel protecting anyone supporting your vision be limited to only those arms.

TurtleDude · Nov 10, 2019

Rich2018 said:
Of course and fully auto guns and all hand guns

In fact it's simpler to list what would be allowed:

Muzzle loading guns
Single shot, bolt action rifles
Single or double barreled shotguns above a certain length
Pump action shotguns with a maximum magazine capacity of 2 - above a certain length.

don't you claim to have a CCW permit-=I suggest you start carrying a colt cap and ball revolver. And think about if you had to deal with a criminal packing a 17 round glock or similar weapon, would you be happy with your choice?

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
That’s as stupid as saying Free Speech should be limited to The spoken word or printed material using a manual type set press....

Why is it stupid

Others countries ban guns and somehow retain the right to free speech.

...but to humor you lets try a test pilot program that anyone protecting a Democrat or security personnel protecting anyone supporting your vision be limited to only those arms.

No let's ban guns on a universal scale backed up by a Constitutional amendment that repealed the 2nd.

Don't GOP politicians also deserve the right to be protected by banning all guns ?

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

TurtleDude said:
don't you claim to have a CCW permit...

I do

And to anyone thinking about buying a gun, get the permit FIRST - it's so easier to buy a gun if you're already a permit holder.

After all you generally get a driver's licence before going car shopping

...I suggest you start carrying a colt cap and ball revolver. And think about if you had to deal with a criminal packing a 17 round glock or similar weapon, would you be happy with your choice?

I am actually far more interested in classic guns from the world wars of the last century.
Most gun shops can't supply what I'm looking for and I won't buy on-line.

TurtleDude · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
Why is it stupid

Others countries ban guns and somehow retain the right to free speech.

No let's ban guns on a universal scale backed up by a Constitutional amendment that repealed the 2nd.

Don't GOP politicians also deserve the right to be protected by banning all guns ?

repealing the second would be political suicide in most states and guess what, The gun banners would then have to enact an amendment that allows congress to ban guns.

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
Why is it stupid

Others countries ban guns and somehow retain the right to free speech.

No let's ban guns on a universal scale backed up by a Constitutional amendment that repealed the 2nd.

Don't GOP politicians also deserve the right to be protected by banning all guns ?

Let’s not ban guns and allow people to keep more freedom. Instead let’s put more effort into preventing people whom have proven themselves untrustworthy from getting guns. Let’s stop making excuses for people who use guns to commit crimes and increase penalties on those who do.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

TurtleDude said:
repealing the second would be political suicide in most states...

Perhaps a few years ago but we have changing demographics and a "Red" state like Texas has a majority of people who are Spanish speakers and who predominantly vote Democrat.

...gun banners would then have to enact an amendment that allows congress to ban guns.

Yes, to repeal an amendment to the Constitution, you have to pass a subsequent one.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
Let’s not ban guns and allow people to keep more freedom. Instead let’s put more effort into preventing people whom have proven themselves untrustworthy from getting guns. Let’s stop making excuses for people who use guns to commit crimes and increase penalties on those who do.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

How would you propose identifying people who are likely to shoot others ?

How would your proposal stop Stephen Paddock from getting guns ?

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

How would you propose identifying people who are likely to shoot others ?

How would your proposal stop Stephen Paddock from getting guns ?

I support reasonable red flag laws that could of prevented Paddock and others from committing crimes.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
I support reasonable red flag laws that could of prevented Paddock and others from committing crimes.

What would you see as a firearm "red flag" ?

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
What would you see as a firearm "red flag" ?

Change from normal behaviour, threats, sudden onset of drug or alcohol abuse, stopping medications without doctors supervision.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
Change from normal behaviour, threats, sudden onset of drug or alcohol abuse, stopping medications without doctors supervision.

And where would you get that data ?

Would you require every doctor in the US to breach confidentiality and send that data...and to who ?
You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about do you ?

How would someone like Stephen Paddock fail you "red flag" test ?

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
And where would you get that data ?

Would you require every doctor in the US to breach confidentiality and send that data...and to who ?
You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about do you ?

How would someone like Stephen Paddock fail you "red flag" test ?

Anyone could make a report so no doctor confidently would need to be broken. If a doctor felt someone is a danger to themselves they are allowed to report concerns now. Just because you cant follow along doesn't mean I don't know what I talking about it just means you have a problem understanding.

From the reports I've see Paddock had a mood change and waa abusing alcohol a few months before his shooting spree. Those around him seeing such a change in behavior would of been able to report such events possibly getting him the help he needed and possibly saving lives.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
Anyone could make a report so no doctor confidently would need to be broken....

To who

And what would make them an expert that their claims didn't warrant investigation by medical experts. Would Stephen Paddock have failed this "red flag"

Can you think of any mass shooter your ill-advised process would have prevented

...if a doctor felt someone is a danger to themselves they are allowed to report concerns now....

You mean the gun owner's doctor thus breaching confidentiality

...just because you cant follow along doesn't mean I don't know what I talking about...

No you're youth and inability to think things through does that

...from the reports I've see Paddock had a mood change and waa abusing alcohol a few months before his shooting spree. Those around him seeing such a change in behavior would of been able to report such events possibly getting him the help he needed and possibly saving lives.

Can you advise which reports those are ?

And are they pre or post incident reports ?

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
To who

And what would make them an expert that their claims didn't warrant investigation by medical experts. Would Stephen Paddock have failed this "red flag"

There wpuld nees to be a system created that would notify the appropriate athourites. A 1800 number and website would be a good starting point.
Paddock could of possibly failed there is no way of knowing for sure. There's nothing we can do to prevent Paddock from his actions now, only things we can do to prevent someone else.

Can you think of any mass shooter your ill-advised process would have prevented

Sure any of the ones that had the shooter acting in a questionable manner.

You mean the gun owner's doctor thus breaching confidentiality

Doctors would be bound by the current lawa surrounding confidentiality and the exemptions.

No you're youth and inability to think things through does that

My age has nothing to do with your inability to focus.

Can you advise which reports those are ?

And are they pre or post incident reports ?

Post incident reports. Agian hindsight is 20/20. We'll never know unless we try how effective it may be.

GDViking · Nov 11, 2019

TurtleDude said:
don't you claim to have a CCW permit-=I suggest you start carrying a colt cap and ball revolver. And think about if you had to deal with a criminal packing a 17 round glock or similar weapon, would you be happy with your choice?

That particular weapon is on my wish list. I have looked at reproductions that I like but I am holding out for a day I have the discretionary funds to afford the real thing.

That being said, if I were up against someone with your shooting experience, I would prefer a 1911. But up against a street punk that thinks it's intimidating to hold his firearm horizontal (there is a reason the sites are on top of the barrel) I like my chances...

GDViking · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
I support reasonable red flag laws that could of prevented Paddock and others from committing crimes.

Red flag laws give LE far too much power.

As it is now all it takes for an officer to bust you for anything is for them to say "I suspect"...

You can detained just for arguing your case and taken to the hospital and have blood taken against your will.

GDViking · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
There wpuld nees to be a system created that would notify the appropriate athourites. A 1800 number and website would be a good starting point.
Paddock could of possibly failed there is no way of knowing for sure. There's nothing we can do to prevent Paddock from his actions now, only things we can do to prevent someone else.

Sure any of the ones that had the shooter acting in a questionable manner.

Doctors would be bound by the current lawa surrounding confidentiality and the exemptions.

My age has nothing to do with your inability to focus.

Post incident reports. Agian hindsight is 20/20. We'll never know unless we try how effective it may be.

So any John doe can call in anyone they are pissed off at.

You think "swating" is a problem imagine that mess...

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

GDViking said:
So any John doe can call in anyone they are pissed off at.

You think "swating" is a problem imagine that mess...

Yes they could call it in, no that doesn't mean actions would be taken. I would also like to see repercussions on abusing the system.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
There wpuld nees to be a system created that would notify the appropriate athourites. A 1800 number and website would be a good starting point....

And an army of people ready to listen to the informants...and then another army to do anything about it...and a third army of lawyers to field to predictable storm of law suits into invasion of privacy.

Don't ever become a politician, you will be destroyed for proposing legislation with thinking it through

...Paddock could of possibly failed there is no way of knowing for sure....

Who might inform on him ?
Can you imagine the howls of rage from the gun owning lobby for confiscating guns on an anonymous tip off ?

...sure any of the ones that had the shooter acting in a questionable manner...

Again you can't define "questionable" in Paddock's or any mass shooter

...doctors would be bound by the current lawa surrounding confidentiality and the exemptions....

Of course and so they're useless to your plans

...my age has nothing to do with your inability to focus...

Your young age has everything to do with the impracticality of your crack pot suggestion.

...we'll never know unless we try how effective it may be.

Post incident reports are kinda useless - like locking the stable after the horse has bolted.

Chillfolks · Nov 11, 2019

Rich2018 said:
And an army of people ready to listen to the informants...and then another army to do anything about it...and a third army of lawyers to field to predictable storm of law suits into invasion of privacy.

Don't ever become a politician, you will be destroyed for proposing legislation with thinking it through

Sounds like a good job creation plan.

Who might inform on him ?
Can you imagine the howls of rage from the gun owning lobby for confiscating guns on an anonymous tip off ?

Are you not understanding there would be process? Getting a tip would not automatically result in a confiscation. It's interesting you're suddenly concerned about rhe howls from the gun lobby when you're in favor of denying them the right to own firearms.

Again you can't define "questionable" in Paddock's or any mass shooter

Already have you must of missed it or not been able to comprehend it.

Of course and so they're useless to your plans

Doctors would be one part just as friends and relatives would be. Are you under the impression doctors can't ans don't currently break confidentiality in pertinent cases?

Your young age has everything to do with the impracticality of your crack pot suggestion.

Not nearly as much as the decline of mental ability brought on by your age is effecting your ability to follow along.

Post incident reports are kinda useless - like locking the stable after the horse has bolted.

If there was a program to help identify horses thinking of bolting actions could be taken. It's a simple concept like people your age wearing adult diapers to prevent crap rolling down there legs.

Rich2018 · Nov 11, 2019

Chillfolks said:
Sounds like a good job creation plan....

You could say that

...are you not understanding there would be process? Getting a tip would not automatically result in a confiscation. It's interesting you're suddenly concerned about rhe howls from the gun lobby when you're in favor of denying them the right to own firearms....

No of course not you're developing the process as we speak

Just what could the army of agents do with an anonymous tip off ?

...already have you must of missed it or not been able to comprehend it....

More like you can't define it

...doctors would be one part just as friends and relatives would be. Are you under the impression doctors can't ans don't currently break confidentiality in pertinent cases?

Doctors don't

And where would a doctor come into your "process" ?

Why don't you details a typical process and I'll see how many Constitutional violations you breached ?

...not nearly as much as the decline of mental ability brought on by your age is effecting your ability to follow along....

Och a stinging rebuke

So have you left High School yet ?

...if there was a program to help identify horses thinking of bolting actions could be taken....

Or gun owners

...it's a simple concept like people your age wearing adult diapers to prevent crap rolling down there legs.

You'll hate me but possessive plural is "their" not "there"

Time to repeat your English grammar class.

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