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NRA group sees backlash over gun auctions in schools

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GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
 
JacksinPA said:
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
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Arg... So, I'm not anti-NRA...but these guys are just trying to piss people off now...lol...

Law abiding, responsible gun owners...do you not think that at minimum, we should be striving for slightly better optics? hehe Damn.
 
JacksinPA said:
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
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Hmm... how, exactly, would one exercise their 2A rights (to keep and bear arms) without owning a gun?
 
JacksinPA said:
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
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There is nothing wrong with this picture. They have been using schools for gun shows for decades, not just the NRA either. There are at least three different gun shows during the year at the nearest public school where I live (none of them sponsored by the NRA).

The NRA is relatively new to defending the Second Amendment. Before around 1989 the NRA was not pro-Second Amendment. In fact, they were so anti-Second Amendment that Gun Owners of America was created during the 1970s in protest against the NRA.

I strongly support promoting gun ownership, particularly among women.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... how, exactly, would one exercise their 2A rights (to keep and bear arms) without owning a gun?
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Go to a licensed gun store, as I do. I own 2 weapons for home defense: a 12-gauge pump & a .22 Magnum S&W snub nose revolver which I keep in my night table drawer. No little ones to worry about. Both weapons are for home defense. The small gauge of the revolver are to minimize collateral damage if a round should miss & wind up inside the house next door.
 
JacksinPA said:
Go to a licensed gun store, as I do. I own 2 weapons for home defense: a 12-gauge pump & a .22 Magnum S&W snub nose revolver which I keep in my night table drawer. No little ones to worry about. Both weapons are for home defense. The small gauge of the revolver are to minimize collateral damage if a round should miss & wind up inside the house next door.
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What the NRA is doing is precisely that - using raffle funds to allow prize winners to go to a licensed gun store (FFL dealer) and collect their prizes. Just as motorcycle clubs offer motorcycle gear as raffle prizes and sports clubs offer sports gear as raffle prizes, gun clubs offer gun gear as raffle prizes.
 
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JacksinPA said:
Go to a licensed gun store, as I do. I own 2 weapons for home defense: a 12-gauge pump & a .22 Magnum S&W snub nose revolver which I keep in my night table drawer. No little ones to worry about. Both weapons are for home defense. The small gauge of the revolver are to minimize collateral damage if a round should miss & wind up inside the house next door.
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Ever considered frangible ammunition?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... how, exactly, would one exercise their 2A rights (to keep and bear arms) without owning a gun?
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gun banners see lawful gun ownership and lawful gun owners as the real enemy because we vote against democrat gun banners.
 
JacksinPA said:
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
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what is a HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE?
 
TurtleDude said:
gun banners see lawful gun ownership and lawful gun owners as the real enemy because we vote against democrat gun banners.
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It's hard to see what the objection is other than what you have stated. That is why I am trying to get some rationale for the OP's objection. The objection does not appear to be allowing folks to own guns, or to win them as raffle prizes, so it must be that they disagree with the allowing the NRA's involvement in the raffle.
 
TurtleDude said:
what is a HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE?
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Any magazine capacity which scares folks - typically those which can hold over 7 to 10 rounds. It's much like the big gulp ban law - they don't care how many "regular" servings of soda pop you buy (or possess) at one time, but wish to ban buying one "too big" serving. It's for your own good, after all.
 
JacksinPA said:
Go to a licensed gun store, as I do. I own 2 weapons for home defense: a 12-gauge pump & a .22 Magnum S&W snub nose revolver which I keep in my night table drawer. No little ones to worry about. Both weapons are for home defense. The small gauge of the revolver are to minimize collateral damage if a round should miss & wind up inside the house next door.
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I avoid gun stores when buying my firearms. It should not require background checks to exercise a constitutionally-protected individual right.

While a 12-guage pump-action shotgun (particularly the pump-action) is a fine choice for self-defense, I would not advise using your .22 revolver for that purpose. Unless you are defending yourself against small children or animals under ~100 pounds, I would not recommend using such a pathetically under-powered round, because it will offer you very little protection.

Against a 6'-0", 200 pound male human, nothing less than 0.32 cal. or 9mm in a revolver. Even then you need to double-tap. Ideally, .40 cal. or 10mm or larger would be the right size and have enough stopping power for an adult human male. You want to have the right tool for the job, and a rim-fire .22 cal. snub-nosed revolver just isn't going to cut it.
 
Glitch said:
There is nothing wrong with this picture. They have been using schools for gun shows for decades, not just the NRA either. There are at least three different gun shows during the year at the nearest public school where I live (none of them sponsored by the NRA).

The NRA is relatively new to defending the Second Amendment. Before around 1989 the NRA was not pro-Second Amendment. In fact, they were so anti-Second Amendment that Gun Owners of America was created during the 1970s in protest against the NRA.

I strongly support promoting gun ownership, particularly among women.
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I dropped my membership when they supported the Brady bill.

Now that they are just a Russian/Republican lobby group I have no time for them...
 
ttwtt78640 said:
What the NRA is doing is precisely that - using raffle funds to allow prize winners to go to a licensed gun store (FFL dealer) and collect their prizes. Just as motorcycle clubs offer motorcycle gear as raffle prizes and sports clubs offer sports gear as raffle prizes, gun clubs offer gun gear as raffle prizes.
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Agreed, I cut ties with the NRA decades ago, however in my opinion they did nothing wrong here..
 
Glitch said:
I avoid gun stores when buying my firearms. It should not require background checks to exercise a constitutionally-protected individual right.

While a 12-guage pump-action shotgun (particularly the pump-action) is a fine choice for self-defense, I would not advise using your .22 revolver for that purpose. Unless you are defending yourself against small children or animals under ~100 pounds, I would not recommend using such a pathetically under-powered round, because it will offer you very little protection.

Against a 6'-0", 200 pound male human, nothing less than 0.32 cal. or 9mm in a revolver. Even then you need to double-tap. Ideally, .40 cal. or 10mm or larger would be the right size and have enough stopping power for an adult human male. You want to have the right tool for the job, and a rim-fire .22 cal. snub-nosed revolver just isn't going to cut it.
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I disagree, in my time as a on farm butcher I have seen many cattle between 1500 and 2000 lbs dropped with one well placed shot from a .22 mag...
 
GDViking said:
I dropped my membership when they supported the Brady bill.

Now that they are just a Russian/Republican lobby group I have no time for them...
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I became an NRA Life Member in 1989, after California enacted their illegal retroactive gun ban. I have been on the NRA-ILA Steering Committee in Alaska since I moved to the State in 1991. I have also been a member of Gun Owners of America since I first learned of their existence in 1980. I first started hunting in 1962 and have been a big proponent of the Second Amendment ever since.
 
GDViking said:
Agreed, I cut ties with the NRA decades ago, however in my opinion they did nothing wrong here..
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As did I when the NRA decided to support CCW, CHL and LTC policies allowing states to initiate constitutional rights rental agreements, especially if they included mandatory NRA "gun safety" courses as a prerequisite.
 
JacksinPA said:
GREENVILLE, Ky. — Parents and students trickled into the Muhlenberg County High School gym on a hot Saturday night as the sounds of cheers and a referee’s whistle carried from an athletic field nearby. Inside the “Home of the Mustangs,” Friends of NRA was raffling off guns: semi-automatic rifles and handguns, guns with high-capacity magazines and pump-action shotguns.

In the past two years, the NRA Foundation’s fundraising program had displayed actual guns along the wooden bleachers in the gym. This time organizers showed only pictures, bowing to objections from parents who pointed to a shooting at another western Kentucky high school last year that left two students dead and more than a dozen wounded.
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What's wrong with this picture? The NRA (via its 'Foundation') is actively merchandising handguns, semiautomatic long guns, high-capacity magazines & pump-action shotguns in public schools & other locations. I thought they existed to protect our 2nd A. rights. Instead they seem to be actively promoting gun ownership across the country.
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Nothing is wrong with this picture.. it wasn't wrong years ago when it was done.. its not wrong today. Whishkibibble.
 
GDViking said:
I disagree, in my time as a on farm butcher I have seen many cattle between 1500 and 2000 lbs dropped with one well placed shot from a .22 mag...
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It would have to be a very well placed shot indeed. Not something I would care to risk while in a life or death situation. The bigger the round, the less accurate you will need to be. Which is one of the reasons why the 0.65 caliber 12-guage is such an effective defensive firearm. It is also the caliber of my choice, and I'm defending against 10 foot tall, 1,400 pound brown bears. I just bought an AR12 last year to replace my well-used 35 year-old Mossberg Model 500. I also keep a .44 Mag revolver as back-up, because it is damn difficult to cast for salmon while carrying a shotgun, but my primary camp gun is my AR12.
 
I think it's good the school holds raffles of that sort. And if the NRA (via its foundations)uses this to promote gun ownership that's great. After all to hear the anti gunners go on that's all the NRA does is sell guns wholesale. NOT. Just saying what they think.
 
Glitch said:
It would have to be a very well placed shot indeed. Not something I would care to risk while in a life or death situation. The bigger the round, the less accurate you will need to be. Which is one of the reasons why the 0.65 caliber 12-guage is such an effective defensive firearm. It is also the caliber of my choice, and I'm defending against 10 foot tall, 1,400 pound brown bears. I just bought an AR12 last year to replace my well-used 35 year-old Mossberg Model 500. I also keep a .44 Mag revolver as back-up, because it is damn difficult to cast for salmon while carrying a shotgun, but my primary camp gun is my AR12.
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Granted, cattle will actually hold still and look at you most of the time.

We once had a steer that was hard to get a shot at because he wouldn't stop walking up and licking the barrel of the rifle.

A .22mag is not the choice I would make for bear protection either but I wouldn't dismiss it's ability to be lethal...
 
JacksinPA said:
Go to a licensed gun store, as I do. I own 2 weapons for home defense: a 12-gauge pump & a .22 Magnum S&W snub nose revolver which I keep in my night table drawer. No little ones to worry about. Both weapons are for home defense. The small gauge of the revolver are to minimize collateral damage if a round should miss & wind up inside the house next door.
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Not nit picking but did you mean caliber?
 
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