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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    If you want a job in Atlanta a lead anything approaching a normal life, you need motor transport or access to it (like a friend's vehicle or Uber)

    What do you need a gun for ? Recreation (and maybe to plug holes in a low esteem)

    QED a car is a necessity, a gun is not


    If your car is necessary for your self images, join the gun owners for who'm their gun(s) is necessary for theirs.
    1. You describe a situation where you consider a car to be a necessity.

    2. You describe a situation where you consider a gun to be a necessity.

    And then......

    You claim this proves that a car is a necessity and a gun is not.

    Seriously?

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    1. You describe a situation where you consider a car to be a necessity...
    Yes, for all practical purposes

    2. You describe a situation where you consider a gun to be a necessity.
    No I mention the two main excuses of the gun lobby that guns are a "necessity". (Excuses 2.1 and 2.2)


    ...you claim this proves that a car is a necessity and a gun is not.
    Yes


    ...seriously?

    Yes.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Yes, for all practical purposes



    No I mention the two main excuses of the gun lobby that guns are a "necessity". (Excuses 2.1 and 2.2)




    Yes





    Yes.
    So now you're back to equivocation. A car is a necessity but a gun is a "necessity". Of course all this was inevitable once you started down the path of setting your personal preferences up as some sort of gauge of universal truth.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    So now you're back to equivocation. A car is a necessity but a gun is a "necessity". Of course all this was inevitable once you started down the path of setting your personal preferences up as some sort of gauge of universal truth.
    I suspect if you really think you need a car and don't have one-there are substitutes and a lack of a car won't cause you to die. If you really need a gun and don't have one, you might well die
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I suspect if you really think you need a car and don't have one-there are substitutes and a lack of a car won't cause you to die. If you really need a gun and don't have one, you might well die
    Someone once wrote to Mark Twain that he was taking a trip out west and considering Clemen's experience- did he think he would need a gun?

    Twain responded something to the effect, "You might need a gun or you might not need a gun. But one thing is sure. If you need a gun, you will need it right then."

    (At least I've always thought this attributed to S. Clemens.)

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I suspect if you really think you need a car and don't have one-there are substitutes and a lack of a car won't cause you to die. If you really need a gun and don't have one, you might well die
    A lack of a gun won't cause you to die - as I can testify to

    A lack or a car can cost you your job and house and cause you to live off charity or worse, live homeless - and it's just my perception, but I'd think homeless people have a shorter lifespan.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    ....a car is a necessity
    Yes, in many places


    ...but a gun is a "necessity"
    No it's not

    I would hazard a guess that even in the USA most people don't have a gun


    ...this was inevitable once you started down the path of setting your personal preferences up as some sort of gauge of universal truth.

    "necessity" in this context implies ability to live how you want to.

    You don't need a gun for any way you want to live, you do need a vehicle or tell me how a salesman or cable technician can otherwise do his job.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Yes, in many places




    No it's not

    I would hazard a guess that even in the USA most people don't have a gun





    "necessity" in this context implies ability to live how you want to.

    You don't need a gun for any way you want to live, you do need a vehicle or tell me how a salesman or cable technician can otherwise do his job.
    I noted you were stuck in a trap of your own making.

    The bolded above just equates to an individual's personal choice. Necessity in a conditional context. "I have to stop by the store tonight because I need a gift card."

    It applies to someone's expressed need for a gun as well as for a vehicle.

    You just want to set yourself and your personal opinion up as the supreme arbiter of those conditional needs for everyone else.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    A lack of a gun won't cause you to die - as I can testify to

    A lack or a car can cost you your job and house and cause you to live off charity or worse, live homeless - and it's just my perception, but I'd think homeless people have a shorter lifespan.
    So if someone is attacking you and you don't have a gun-you aren't going to get hurt? where do you come up with such nonsense?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Republicans aren't wrong about 'People with Metnal health Issues'

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    I noted you were stuck in a trap of your own making.

    The bolded above just equates to an individual's personal choice. Necessity in a conditional context. "I have to stop by the store tonight because I need a gift card."

    It applies to someone's expressed need for a gun as well as for a vehicle.

    You just want to set yourself and your personal opinion up as the supreme arbiter of those conditional needs for everyone else.
    its just idiotic. It is so beyond reality it must be posted as a joke. Half the people I went to law school with-most are millionaires now-don't own cars. They live in NYC, Boston, or London. If they need a "car" it generally is not RIGHT NOW, so they can use a cab, a subway, a rental or an Uber. If you really NEED a gun, you need it INSTANTLY.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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