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The number of concealed handgun permits has increased for the third year in a row.

you're a gun banner, you want registration...

I do propose banning most guns

I recognize this can't really be done until the 2nd Amendment is repealed....in the meantime (and after any ban) I propose a mandatory firearms register.


...that the federal government violates the tenth amendment constantly is no justification for other violations


So you admit the 10th Amendment would be no impediment to such a register ?
 
Only if doing so would not have required self-incrimination. The problem with mandatory gun registration is that it must exempt prohibited persons.

Not so, a person prohibited from owning a firearm could still enter details for the register and face the consequences
Similarly, a non prohibited person could also enter details on illegally held guns

When a non-citizen visits the USA, they have to fill in an immigration form that asks several questions like "are you coming to the USA to overthrow the government" - doesn't that also violate the 5th amendment ?


...we already have laws making it a crime for a prohibited person to possess any gun.


Yes that's what "prohibited" means. But since the consequences of failing to register a gun would be gun confiscation and being prohibited from owning a gun, isn't your point a little bit superfluous ?
 
I do propose banning most guns

I recognize this can't really be done until the 2nd Amendment is repealed....in the meantime (and after any ban) I propose a mandatory firearms register.





So you admit the 10th Amendment would be no impediment to such a register ?

if I were a judge and a national registration law was passed, I'd strike it down as violating the Second, ninth and tenth amendments.

But you miss the point. I oppose registration for several reasons-one of them being that gun banners like you see it as a tool to help you achieve your goals.Gun registration does not do a single useful thing for gun owners
 
if I were a judge and a national registration law was passed, I'd strike it down as violating the Second, ninth and tenth amendments.

But you miss the point. I oppose registration for several reasons-one of them being that gun banners like you see it as a tool to help you achieve your goals.Gun registration does not do a single useful thing for gun owners

You've proven with your very own words why you should never be seriously considered by any stretch of the imagination to sit as an impartial judge, or a prosecutor for that matter.
 
CC is the way to go.

Open carry only got me (3) "man with a gun" call in's here in Hampton Roads.

Luckily the cops here are trained properly, so I wasn't surrounded by SWAT like in some places.

People with no training shouldn't be carrying a firearm to begin with. It's their right, but it's foolish, and a risk to the community.
 
You've proven with your very own words why you should never be seriously considered by any stretch of the imagination to sit as an impartial judge, or a prosecutor for that matter.

Exactly how did TD prove anything other than making his point about nonsensical people on the issue making choices for gun owners? He is correct.

Death by a thousand little cuts from the anti gun nuts would be a good analogy.
 
Exactly how did TD prove anything other than making his point about nonsensical people on the issue making choices for gun owners? He is correct.

Death by a thousand little cuts from the anti gun nuts would be a good analogy.

He's on record here at DP as stating " I don't care if a drunk 17 year old male gropes a 15 year old female as long as there is no physical harm." That not only is an indisputable gender bias against females in general, it's a clear indicator of lack of concern for defenseless young females. No one with that personal testimony should ever be allowed to be a sitting judge, or a prosecutor, in a court of law.
 
He's on record here at DP as stating " I don't care if a drunk 17 year old male gropes a 15 year old female as long as there is no physical harm." That not only is an indisputable gender bias against females in general, it's a clear indicator of lack of concern for defenseless young females. No one with that personal testimony should ever be allowed to be a sitting judge, or a prosecutor, in a court of law.

That certainly sounds like poor judgement too me.
 
Exactly how did TD prove anything other than making his point about nonsensical people on the issue making choices for gun owners? He is correct.

Death by a thousand little cuts from the anti gun nuts would be a good analogy.


Thank you, and yes, it is unconstitutional. BTW the other comment he is talking about, he has not accurately reported and it was made over a year ago
 
That certainly sounds like poor judgement too me.

what does that have to do with this gun issue? And it is not accurate either. It was merely in the context of the Kavanaugh hearing-as you well know
 
if I were a judge and a national registration law was passed, I'd strike it down as violating the Second, ninth and tenth amendments....

And not the 5th as it required people with illegally held gun to incriminate themselves by registering them ?

In truth a mandatory register violates no amendment.

For instance the 2nd amendment doesn't ban a registry. And also we allow the government to ban certain people from owning guns - the 2nd doesn't give the government the right to ban a released felon from owning a gun.

The 2nd amendment talks about "the people" not "citizens"


...I oppose registration for several reasons-one of them being that gun banners like you see it as a tool to help you achieve your goals...

I does make law enforcement easier


...gun registration does not do a single useful thing for gun owners


Helping law enforcement to solve/deter crime is not useful ?
 
And not the 5th as it required people with illegally held gun to incriminate themselves by registering them ?

In truth a mandatory register violates no amendment.

For instance the 2nd amendment doesn't ban a registry. And also we allow the government to ban certain people from owning guns - the 2nd doesn't give the government the right to ban a released felon from owning a gun.

The 2nd amendment talks about "the people" not "citizens"




I does make law enforcement easier





Helping law enforcement to solve/deter crime is not useful ?

sadly your understanding of constitutional law is weak=what part of the constitution properly delegates such a power to the federal government?

you cannot prove registration makes law enforcement easier. It makes confiscation easier-which is why you want it

You are on record as wanting to ban all guns

you support registration

It is only logical that you think registration aids with banning/confiscation
 
sadly your understanding of constitutional law is weak=what part of the constitution properly delegates such a power to the federal government?

What part of the Constitution gives the federal government the power to approve or ban drugs ?
What part of the Constitution gives the federal government the power to pass climate control laws ?


...you cannot prove registration makes law enforcement easier....

You claim registration would not, but you can't prove it

The ATF web pages states that requests to trace guns is of help to law enforcement as evidenced by the many requests for assistance BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.


...you are on record as wanting to ban all guns...

Yes, though I have said the law banning all guns could or should allow exceptions similar to British gun laws.


...you support registration...

Yes, until or when the 2nd amendment is repealed and guns are banned


...it is only logical that you think registration aids with banning/confiscation

It would help guns but if it were my call, I'd jump to repealing the 2ns amendment and banning guns from the get go

A register of approved guns could still be implemented though.
 
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