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...you're More Likely to Shoot a Loved One

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A Florida man who shot and killed his son-in-law who jumped out of a bush to surprise him for his birthday will not face criminal charges, police said.
Florida man fatally shoots son-in-law who was trying to surprise him for his birthday
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I wonder if his daughter forgives him.



Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.

A person pulling the trigger on a gun is most likely to be shooting themselves, then their family, then commit a felony, then way, way, way down the line, if they're lucky, they hit a bad guy.

The True Odds of Shooting a Bad Guy With a Gun
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Shakes head
 
“surprise!” “boom!”
 
calamity said:
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I wonder if his daughter forgives him.



Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.




Shakes head
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Gotta get my mind out of the CT gutter......
 
the obvious solution is that those who are incompetent with firearms, or too fearful to handle them properly, should not own guns.
 
calamity said:
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I wonder if his daughter forgives him.



Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.




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I'm not more likely to shoot a loved one.
 
Aside from the despicable attempt by the OP to use a tragedy to further a cause, the simple fact is that while there may be up to 500 accidental discharges of any type in any given year, there at least 100,000 and perhaps as many as 2.5 MILLION defensive uses of firearms in any given year. But it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone that the OP would attempt to use a tragedy to further a cause...it just proves how little he actually cares about the victims as anything more than props.
 
If your family is having a fight making a growling sound and jumping out of the bushes 1130 at night is not the best idea.
 
calamity said:
Hmm...


I wonder if his daughter forgives him.



Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.




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The person who wrote that article has 0 clue on what is happening. First he suggests that only 30,000 people a year use a gun. Then he suggests that you are twice as likely to be killed by a gun than a car.

37 million people went to firing ranges last year, I am pretty sure they used a gun. over 100k crimes that had a gun present. 40k people killed by automobile last year. Just those numbers are enough to know he is only using the info he wants to. Which is dishonest.
 
VanceMack said:
Aside from the despicable attempt by the OP to use a tragedy to further a cause, the simple fact is that while there may be up to 500 accidental discharges of any type in any given year, there at least 100,000 and perhaps as many as 2.5 MILLION defensive uses of firearms in any given year. But it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone that the OP would attempt to use a tragedy to further a cause...it just proves how little he actually cares about the victims as anything more than props.
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Stats prove a gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to:

1. Shoot himself

2. Shoot a loved one

3. Commit a felony

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10015. Kill bad guy
 
VanceMack said:
Aside from the despicable attempt by the OP to use a tragedy to further a cause, the simple fact is that while there may be up to 500 accidental discharges of any type in any given year, there at least 100,000 and perhaps as many as 2.5 MILLION defensive uses of firearms in any given year. But it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone that the OP would attempt to use a tragedy to further a cause...it just proves how little he actually cares about the victims as anything more than props.
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Heaven forbid someone use a tragedy to point out the tragic misuse of a firearm. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Heaven forbid someone use a tragedy to point out the tragic misuse of a firearm. :roll:
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your MO is using tragedies to try to insinuate that such incidents are common and widespread and that guns need to be banned to stop them
 
calamity said:
Stats prove a gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to:

1. Shoot himself

2. Shoot a loved one

3. Commit a felony

....

10015. Kill bad guy
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No targets or hunting game in that list, I would suggest that targets would be #1 deer would be #2 other wild game #3 Commit a Felony would be #4 suicide #5. If you put killing a bad guy around 10k then shooting a loved one would be after that.
 
TurtleDude said:
your MO is using tragedies to try to insinuate that such incidents are common and widespread and that guns need to be banned to stop them
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Stats prove a gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to:

1. Shoot himself

2. Shoot a loved one

3. Commit a felony

....

10015. Kill bad guy
 
calamity said:
Heaven forbid someone use a tragedy to point out the tragic misuse of a firearm. :roll:
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You didnt point out the tragic misuse of a firearm. You did what you always do...used a tragic misuse of a firearm to promulgate a lie to further your cause.
 
calamity said:
Stats prove a gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to:

1. Shoot himself

2. Shoot a loved one

3. Commit a felony

....

10015. Kill bad guy
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Bull****

A gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to shoot paper targets, metal targets, clay targets, or an animal they are hunting. I pulled the trigger almost 300 times this morning and didn’t shoot myself, a loved one, or commit a felony. Neither did the 8 other gun owners beside me.
 
VanceMack said:
You didnt point out the tragic misuse of a firearm. You did what you always do...used a tragic misuse of a firearm to promulgate a lie to further your cause.
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Yes, we should stop pointing out when tragedies occur with firearms because it might alter the perception people have of guns, harming the "Precious." :roll:
 
Chillfolks said:
Bull****

A gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to shoot paper targets, metal targets, clay targets, or an animal they are hunting. I pulled the trigger almost 300 times this morning and didn’t shoot myself, a loved one, or commit a felony.
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THat's nice. Send a report to the source providing the hard data.
 
calamity said:
Hmm...


I wonder if his daughter forgives him.



Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.




Shakes head
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The son-in-law was an idiot but so was the father-in-law. One of the basic rules when handling a gun is to keep your finger off the trigger until you're sure of your target and you absolutely know its a target you want to shoot. Another words, you only put your finger on the trigger when you're absolutely sure your would be target is a bad guy and not an innocent person. You also keep the gun at the ready position where its pointed diagonally down towards the ground until you're aware of a bad guy, you don't walk around with a gun pointed forward in a manner in which you might muzzle innocent people.

By the same token you don't jump out and scare people, that's just plain stupid. I wonder if the man's daughter has forgiven her now dead husband.
 
Chillfolks said:
Bull****

A gun owner pulling a trigger is most likely to shoot paper targets, metal targets, clay targets, or an animal they are hunting. I pulled the trigger almost 300 times this morning and didn’t shoot myself, a loved one, or commit a felony. Neither did the 8 other gun owners beside me.
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I've must've fired guns tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of times in my lifetime so far. I have not shot myself or a loved one or have I used a gun to commit a crime. Most of the time stuff I've shot has been paper targets, clay pigeons, hanging wooden targets, and steel plates. And I did shoot an alligator and a hog when I was hunting.
 
calamity said:
Reminds me of that old but true argument I've been making forever: If you own a gun, after shooting yourself, you are more likely to shoot a loved one.
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That depends, far more than anything else, on who it is that owns the gun.

Generally Im all for the Right to Keep And Bear Arms but even I make exceptions to that. With an attitude like yours I wouldn't trust you with a gun.
 
daeler said:
The person who wrote that article has 0 clue on what is happening. First he suggests that only 30,000 people a year use a gun. Then he suggests that you are twice as likely to be killed by a gun than a car.

37 million people went to firing ranges last year, I am pretty sure they used a gun. over 100k crimes that had a gun present. 40k people killed by automobile last year. Just those numbers are enough to know he is only using the info he wants to. Which is dishonest.
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Having 0 clue is typical of those who are against gun rights.
 
TurtleDude said:
the obvious solution is that those who are incompetent with firearms, or too fearful to handle them properly, should not own guns.
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Any hope you'd support legislation that would make that the law instead of just good advice?

We'd need to decide how to determine that competence, as part of that.
 
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