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pinqy said:
Because your claim was that if registration is allowed for one right then it could be allowed for another. But if that is not necessarily true (and it’s not) then it makes no difference if registering to vote is ok or not when discussing firearms registration.


Yes, because it facilitates voting and does not restrict the right.


And the handgun bans in DC and Chicago were presumed constitutional as well. But they weren’t
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But factually if a law is currently on the books it is presumed constitutional. You may have an opinion about it but it is constitutional until challenged.


Registration of guns is currently presumed constitutional
 
vegas giants said:
Presumed by every law enforcement agency in the country
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calamity said:
Are the roads safer with licensed drivers than they would be without?

For some reason gunners are OK with "well regulated" highways, but they love ignoring those two words when it comes to the Second Amendment.
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a most stupid analogy.

and where in the constitution was the federal government delegated any power to "well regulate" individuals and their arms? Smart people understand that well regulated meant a militia that actually was in working order. Thanks for repeating idiocy that has been destroyed at least a million times since gun banners started pretending that the second amendment actually was a ancillary grant of power to the federal government
 
TurtleDude said:
a most stupid analogy.

and where in the constitution was the federal government delegated any power to "well regulate" individuals and their arms? Smart people understand that well regulated meant a militia that actually was in working order. Thanks for repeating idiocy that has been destroyed at least a million times since gun banners started pretending that the second amendment actually was a ancillary grant of power to the federal government
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A most stupid denial of a very good analogy.

Read he Second. It states the words, "well regulated," as you will see. They didn't put those words in just for some filler. :roll:
 
A poorly regulated militia would be farmers in bare feet armed with rocks and pitchforks.

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Eriech said:
A poorly regulated militia would be farmers in bare feet armed with rocks and pitchforks.

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No, that would be an unshod, poorly armed militia. "Regulated" means something completely different. Look it up.
 
calamity said:
A most stupid denial of a very good analogy.

Read he Second. It states the words, "well regulated," as you will see. They didn't put those words in just for some filler. :roll:
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only someone completely ignorant of constitutional law or dishonest, would claim that "well regulated militia" means the federal government can regulate the rights of the citizens. It also shows a complete failure to understand Article One, Section 8. In summary citing "well regulated" to support federal gun restrictions, brands anyone who says that as either completely dishonest in this area or so unlearned that their opinions should be rejected as twaddle.
 
Eriech said:
A poorly regulated militia would be farmers in bare feet armed with rocks and pitchforks.

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or having no mission nor officers. a well regulated militia would have well armed men, who had elected officers and had a mission or task to fulfill
 
calamity said:
A most stupid denial of a very good analogy.

Read he Second. It states the words, "well regulated," as you will see. They didn't put those words in just for some filler. :roll:
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Lets get back to the main issue-you claim registration would cut down on the 30-40K deaths from gunshot you howled about each year. You never attempted to prove that bald faced lie
 
Eriech said:
A poorly regulated militia would be farmers in bare feet armed with rocks and pitchforks.

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Or even worse..

A highly armed but poorly trained group that has no leaders and no mission


Which is what we have
 
calamity said:
Are the roads safer with licensed drivers than they would be without?

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No..they are not safer.

Seriously man.. do you think that a test licensing a driver 60 years ago.. means they are competent to drive NOW?

BWAAAAHHH... you anti gunners are so silly.

What makes highways safe is not the licensing of drivers.. its not even the speed limits (as studies prove by the way)..its the regulation on the construction of highways and their design.
 
jaeger19 said:
No..they are not safer.

Seriously man.. do you think that a test licensing a driver 60 years ago.. means they are competent to drive NOW?

BWAAAAHHH... you anti gunners are so silly.

What makes highways safe is not the licensing of drivers.. its not even the speed limits (as studies prove by the way)..its the regulation on the construction of highways and their design.
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Opinion noted and dismissed
 
calamity said:
For some reason gunners are OK with "well regulated" highways, but they love ignoring those two words when it comes to the Second Amendment.
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I for one would love bringing back the militia. As militiamen we'd have the right to have military weapons like grenade launchers and bazookas.


calamity said:
Read he Second. It states the words, "well regulated," as you will see. They didn't put those words in just for some filler. :roll:
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So let's bring back the militia so I can get a closet full of 84mm bazookas. Let's see a bad guy's personal body armor resist a hit from one of those. :cool:

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calamity said:
"Regulated" means something completely different. Look it up.
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The term "well-regulated militia" means a militia that has trained sufficiently enough that they can fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of unorganized individuals.
 
calamity said:
A most stupid denial of a very good analogy.

Read he Second. It states the words, "well regulated," as you will see. They didn't put those words in just for some filler. :roll:
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Who wrote The Constitution? That's right We The People did not the govt. What does the word regulated mean? Does it mean saw to by the govt., or in this context maybe it might mean helping to be sure those people are armed accordingly and can gather if need be township too township.
 
Toggle Almendro said:
I for one would love bringing back the militia. As militiamen we'd have the right to have military weapons like grenade launchers and bazookas.



So let's bring back the militia so I can get a closet full of 84mm bazookas. Let's see a bad guy's personal body armor resist a hit from one of those. :cool:

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The term "well-regulated militia" means a militia that has trained sufficiently enough that they can fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of unorganized individuals.
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Well regulated means well equipped. Every able bodied man was militia at the time. Single coherent unit? Lol

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Eriech said:
Well regulated means well equipped. Every able bodied man was militia at the time. Single coherent unit? Lol

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And well trained. Our militia us a mess
 
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