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Guns are an Acceptable Risk to Be American

Tlrmln said:
I'm not missing anything, including the fact that you lost the argument, so you're harping on irrelevant stats.
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You are cherry picking again.

Better luck next time
 
CLAX1911 said:
That's an honest question why should I care what other countries do? If you don't think it's civil or you take offense that wasn't my intent.
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No it isn't. "If you don't like it, leave" is not an honest question or debating point. In fact in a democracy there are mechanisms for people not happy with the status quo: they vote. So that's what I intend to do about it.

As for the other points, something about gun regulations and enforcement? I'd like stricter background checks, licensing procedures and perhaps a constitutional amendment. But I don't want gun ownership banned. There is a place for guns in recreation, home defense and self-defense. However who can have their hands on what needs to be more carefully monitored.
 
vegas giants said:
You are cherry picking again.

Better luck next time
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Right. I specifically picked the very next country in the list of countries by gun ownership to compare to other countries in Europe.

You, on the other hand, picked a handful of countries, out of a total of 195, to compare the US to, based on a more or less circular designation.
 
Tlrmln said:
Right. I specifically picked the very next country in the list of countries by gun ownership to compare to other countries in Europe.

You, on the other hand, picked a handful of countries, out of a total of 195, to compare the US to, based on a more or less circular designation.
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You picked a country with high gun death rates. Is the best the US can be is to be like Serbia? Really?

That is just sad
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Buy more guns and ammo! It will stop the mass shootings!
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At least it greatly reduces them. FBI stats: over the last 20 years nationwide gun ownership has doubled while violent crime and murder had dropped by 50%.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
They are. No part of this country is immune to gun violence.
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Any death not from old age is one to many. Because humans are not perfect the world will never be perfect and therefore we will never stop all tragic death.

In most non-leftist parts of the US gun violence is so rare that they are as close to immune as can ever be achieved.
 
Casca XV said:
Any death not from old age is one to many. Because humans are not perfect the world will never be perfect and therefore we will never stop all tragic death.

In most non-leftist parts of the US gun violence is so rare that they are as close to immune as can ever be achieved.
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But we're told that leftists are too weak to own guns, so who's doing the shooting?
 
uptower said:
No it isn't. "If you don't like it, leave" is not an honest question or debating point. In fact in a democracy there are mechanisms for people not happy with the status quo: they vote. So that's what I intend to do about it.

As for the other points, something about gun regulations and enforcement? I'd like stricter background checks, licensing procedures and perhaps a constitutional amendment. But I don't want gun ownership banned. There is a place for guns in recreation, home defense and self-defense. However who can have their hands on what needs to be more carefully monitored.
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I bore of this nonsense. from the looks of it you're continuing on with it to avoid the questions I asked.

To get this out of the way I don't care about your feelings if you find that to be uncivil and you just can't take it then you can politely as you please jump in a lake. I do not care about your feelings or what you think is civil or uncivil.

now if you want to address the questions I asked you instead of wetting your pants over nonsense then feel free but if you don't have an argument I'm not going to care about your crying.

If you want me to quit mocking you quit being a mockery.
 
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Casca XV said:
Any death not from old age is one to many. Because humans are not perfect the world will never be perfect and therefore we will never stop all tragic death.

In most non-leftist parts of the US gun violence is so rare that they are as close to immune as can ever be achieved.
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If we eliminated the cities....we have very little gun violence. Lol
 
Casca XV said:
At least it greatly reduces them. FBI stats: over the last 20 years nationwide gun ownership has doubled while violent crime and murder had dropped by 50%.
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Are we down to only 25 times the rate of other first world nations????
 
Frigidweirdo said:
The problem is many Americans substitute their gun for actually using their brain.

If you actually voted properly, then you might not actually have to worry about the people you elect trying to mess you over all the time.
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Sometimes it doesn't matter how you vote as long as politicians say what people want to hear.
 
Glitch said:
Not too weak, mentally incompetent. Liberalism is a mental disease after all.
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Liberal progressives have an inability to reason. It escapes them

-VySky
 
vegas giants said:
It's all about racism and politics for the ammosexuals movement
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O.M.G.! Talk about calling the kettle black! You got your little politics to fuel your anti gun rants(or maybe even the other way around) then you induce a little bit of racism to it. Then your side has the UBBs (unmitigated brass balls) to say everything is all our fault with a condescending smirk. Ammosexuals? Put down that Gun and Ammo magazine and quite fantasizing about what YOU can't have.
 
zsu2357 said:
O.M.G.! Talk about calling the kettle black! You got your little politics to fuel your anti gun rants(or maybe even the other way around) then you induce a little bit of racism to it. Then your side has the UBBs (unmitigated brass balls) to say everything is all our fault with a condescending smirk. Ammosexuals? Put down that Gun and Ammo magazine and quite fantasizing about what YOU can't have.
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Cant have? I have all the guns I want. Lol
 
Originally Posted by Tlrmln View Post
One of the things that's "great" about the US is the freedom we have. Taking some of that away, especially in ways that won't actually solve any of our problems, won't make us "greater."

One thing that might make us "greater," is reducing our military spending to be on par with other "first world" countries. That, and putting an end to the drug war. If we did both of those things and spend the money we save to address violence in our inner cities and other system problems that other "first world" countries don't have, we'd probably be on par with them in terms of our murder rate. And that's without taking any gun rights away from anyone.
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I dont think filling out a form is a big loss of freedom. If you can name one of those successful countries that got to low gun deaths without stricter gun laws I'd love to hear it.


Until then I believe its impossible
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What does your form have to do with Tlrmln's post except dance around it and not remotely answer it?
 
lwf said:
And we are as a society less racist than we were 20 to 30 years ago, because the SJW's remind us when we fall back into old habits that disfranchise minorities.
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And here I always thought SJW's were Christians.
 
Hondo said:
Racists are entitled to their beliefs and speech. It's far more common among all races than people admit. Few have the guts to be honest about it.
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Being honest on an anonymous forum. How brave.
 
Parrish said:
Being honest on an anonymous forum. How brave.
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I meant in general in society today. I mean true racists not the, "Oh! Gotcha! You said something that I can make a case for offense," racist.
 
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