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Owners of "AR" style firearms only.

Will you comply

  • Why of-course I would, the government knows vest

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hell no!

    Votes: 17 85.0%

  • Other, add detailed answer.

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
NWO_Spook said:
If you say so. We have more guns in circulation than before Port Arthur Massacre in '97, yet now most are registered and oddly enough, we have less gun related violence than prior to this date. Illegal weapons are being removed form the pool each year through crime raids etc. Weapons need to be stored in gun safes subject to police inspection, and semi-auto rifles are banned because they were the 'go to' weapon for the mass shooter. We had 15 mass shootings between 1980 and 1997, and apart from one murder suicide, we have not had any since '97 according to the US criterion.


The bottom line is, we do not have the gun violence we knew before the legislative reforms and the buyback, and that is all that matters.
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With all due respect I wasn't talking about the situation in Australia. You can have whatever laws you wish.
 
vegas giants said:
Sounds like you will be dependent on socialism. Lol
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I might as well I have paid in 45 years. I will never get back what I paid in. That is the problem with socialism. It benefits the lazy and punishes the hard working.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I might as well I have paid in 45 years. I will never get back what I paid in. That is the problem with socialism. It benefits the lazy and punishes the hard working.
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Then dont take it. On principal. Lol
 
NWO_Spook said:
And some people do not care about the safety of their fellow citizens and post such nonsense as you did. I find it rather sad that your concept of freedom is wrapped up in unregulated gun ownership for that's just ridiculous.

A conservative government had the balls to try and stop the gun violence and it seems to have worked. It's better for all citizens and that is all that matters. We do not associate the gun with some form of religious idolatry.
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It hasnt worked in Australia. There have been more massacres in Australia SINCE the gun ban than there were in the 25 years BEFORE the gun ban.
 
VanceMack said:
It hasnt worked in Australia. There have been more massacres in Australia SINCE the gun ban than there were in the 25 years BEFORE the gun ban.
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Made up nonsense
 
vegas giants said:
Then dont take it. On principal. Lol
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There is not a problem with the hard working people who paid in their entire life receiving the benefits of their hard work. It is the people who pay in little or nothing who pillage the system and are the problem. That is one of the reasons I will not support the democrat party. Their belief that it is OK to screw over the hard working people to give to the lazy.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
There is not a problem with the hard working people who paid in their entire life receiving the benefits of their hard work. It is the people who pay in little or nothing who pillage the system and are the problem. That is one of the reasons I will not support the democrat party. Their belief that it is OK to screw over the hard working people to give to the lazy.
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Then make a health care tax and let's get single payer already
 
NWO_Spook said:
And who exactly am I subject to?



Hmmm...our gun violence stats beg to differ.
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there is no evidence that registration does squat in terms of that area
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
There is not a problem with the hard working people who paid in their entire life receiving the benefits of their hard work. It is the people who pay in little or nothing who pillage the system and are the problem. That is one of the reasons I will not support the democrat party. Their belief that it is OK to screw over the hard working people to give to the lazy.
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Today a retired single woman - worked hard all her life while raising a family mostly as a single parent - told us how shocked she is that she has to live on a mere $900 a month on social security - plus pay for medicare supplemental insurance and still has co-pay - while the government provides 100% medical care to the illegal immigrants and is giving them free housing, free utilities, and money while they await their hearing years from now, never showing up.

Unfortunately, she looks white and doesn't speak Spanish. Otherwise she maybe could get away with claiming non-American illegal immigrant benefits, since they are vastly greater than to her as an American who paid into the system for half a century.

THIS is the America the Democratic Party has created, where being an American citizen is being a 2nd class citizen. I would describe her opinion - her never wealthy or high income - as pure hatred of the Democratic Party. They're betrayal has ruined her life for the rest of her life.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I might as well I have paid in 45 years. I will never get back what I paid in. That is the problem with socialism. It benefits the lazy and punishes the hard working.
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See my message #210 above.

All the promises made by Democratic liberals when money for social security was taken out of people's paychecks ultimately was the lie that is always told about socialism. It works - until all the money is spent. The social security system is 100% broke, has nothing but stakes of IOUs from the federal government - then counting those IOUs as how much the SS Administration has - when IOUs from a government that is the most bankrupt government on earth are worthless, absolutely nothing.

Yet despite this, the Democratic liberals now steal what little values remains of the SS System for our seniors who paid half a century upon the false promises, to give 20,000,000 illegal immigrants, who also took the jobs that desperate elderly and other Americans could at least try to get to survive on.

NEVER believe what the Democratic Party say. They say they are not for taking away people's guns, just like until last year furiously claimed they opposed open borders - until virtually all are sobbingly and ranting demanding open borders, ie "decriminalization" of illegal immigration (which is demanding open borders).

They don't want to just ban AR15s. Read them now on other threads cheering that Germans can even have a cap gun without a background check and psychological examination plus waiting period - and even then most are denied. Democrats on that topic LOVE that idea and want it here.
 
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joko104 said:
Today a retired single woman - worked hard all her life while raising a family mostly as a single parent - told us how shocked she is that she has to live on a mere $900 a month on social security - plus pay for medicare supplemental insurance and still has co-pay - while the government provides 100% medical care to the illegal immigrants and is giving them free housing, free utilities, and money while they await their hearing years from now, never showing up.

Unfortunately, she looks white and doesn't speak Spanish. Otherwise she maybe could get away with claiming non-American illegal immigrant benefits, since they are vastly greater than to her as an American who paid into the system for half a century.

THIS is the America the Democratic Party has created, where being an American citizen is being a 2nd class citizen. I would describe her opinion - her never wealthy or high income - as pure hatred of the Democratic Party. They're betrayal has ruined her life for the rest of her life.
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The really sad part of all this is the people getting screwed like the woman you describe are voting for the people screwing them. I work the poles and the people who vote straight party usually have no clue who is even running. I help 90% of them vote because they are not smart enough to even work the voting machine. When I read back to them the names of who they voted for they start saying no I want to vote for the democrats. Then I have to point out to them that all the names I read back to them are the democrats. The guy who works with me starts laughing but it is sad not funny.
 
joko104 said:
See my message #210 above.

All the promises made by Democratic liberals when money for social security was taken out of people's paychecks ultimately was the lie that is always told about socialism. It works - until all the money is spent. The social security system is 100% broke, has nothing but stakes of IOUs from the federal government - then counting those IOUs as how much the SS Administration has - when IOUs from a government that is the most bankrupt government on earth are worthless, absolutely nothing.

Yet despite this, the Democratic liberals now steal what little values remains of the SS System for our seniors who paid half a century upon the false promises, to give 20,000,000 illegal immigrants, who also took the jobs that desperate elderly and other Americans could at least try to get to survive on.

NEVER believe what the Democratic Party say. They say they are not for taking away people's guns, just like until last year furiously claimed they opposed open borders - until virtually all are sobbingly and ranting demanding open borders, ie "decriminalization" of illegal immigration (which is demanding open borders).

They don't want to just ban AR15s. Read them now on other threads cheering that Germans can even have a cap gun without a background check and psychological examination plus waiting period - and even then most are denied. Democrats on that topic LOVE that idea and want it here.
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You know Bush couldn't get SS reform done with both houses republican. So it is not just the democrat's. Both parties do work together when it comes to screwing the hard working citizen.
 
Bullseye said:
With all due respect I wasn't talking about the situation in Australia. You can have whatever laws you wish.
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Ok, the post you replied to was a response to a question about nations with such legislation, so it appeared that you were maintaining the theme without such a qualification.
 
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TurtleDude said:
there is no evidence that registration does squat in terms of that area
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At least the police can trace registered weapons used in crime, and as I said earlier, illegal weapons are being removed from the available pool each year through various police operations. I do not see why people are so vehemently opposed to this simple act, as it doesn't compromise one's freedom.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Our government can't even secure our border. The cartel are in this country now.
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The government could easily secure the border if that was a true priority..
 
Spartacus FPV said:
Says the guy who said this:
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That is the same guy...

Automatics are already banned, be less ignorant on subjects if you want your opinion taken seriously.
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I don't get into stupid dumb**** semantic games about this topic... semi-full-whatever-military style... we all know the guns that are the problem... only dumb ****ing tools debate the semantics... and they are the ones that I never take seriously because they are full of ****.
 
VanceMack said:
It hasnt worked in Australia. There have been more massacres in Australia SINCE the gun ban than there were in the 25 years BEFORE the gun ban.
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Why are you repeating that lie? I already PROVED that you are wrong... just more gun loving lies being tossed about by people that want to caress their guns while watching Rambo.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Why are you repeating that lie? I already PROVED that you are wrong... just more gun loving lies being tossed about by people that want to caress their guns while watching Rambo.
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No...you didnt. You proved you didnt read your source, cant count, or are just a deliberate liar.

More massacres SINCE the 1996 gun ban than the 25 years PRIOR TO. Thats a fact that your source clearly shows.
 
NWO_Spook said:
That is just blatantly false.
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"There have been more massacres in Australia SINCE the gun ban than there were in the 25 years BEFORE the gun ban"

A 100% fact. Are you ignorant or just a liar?
 
Bodhisattva said:
I don't get into stupid dumb**** semantic games about this topic... semi-full-whatever-military style... we all know the guns that are the problem... only dumb ****ing tools debate the semantics... and they are the ones that I never take seriously because they are full of ****.
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"semi-full-whatever-military style"

This highlights the lunacy of your opinion.

That unspecified nonsense languange will not do well in a legal document restricting the rights of millions of law abiding citizens.
 
VanceMack said:
No...you didnt. You proved you didnt read your source, cant count, or are just a deliberate liar.

More massacres SINCE the 1996 gun ban than the 25 years PRIOR TO. Thats a fact that your source clearly shows.
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Yeah, I read it that is why I can tell the difference between the 25 that you claim are gun related mass shootings and things like this:

- North Ryde, NSW triple murder. 10 July 2001 North Ryde, N.S.W. 3 Sef Gonzales killed both parents and sister by bashing, strangling and stabbing.[17]
- Winchelsea drowning 4 September 2005 Winchelsea, Victoria 3 Robert Farquharson deliberately drove his car into a dam drowning his three sons.[21]
- Annerley arson February 2006 Annerley, Qld. 3 Errol Graham Hayes set fire to the Annerley home shared by former lawyer Theresa Marchetti, their son Joshua and her then partner Mark Christensen killing all three.[22][23]



And there are more... but apparently you think that killing a person with arson is a gun related crime! :lol:

Get back to me when you can read properly.
 
Jimbo302 said:
"semi-full-whatever-military style"

This highlights the lunacy of your opinion.

That unspecified nonsense languange will not do well in a legal document restricting the rights of millions of law abiding citizens.
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We are not arguing a legal document... we are arguing that there are too many guns that are capable of killing a ton of people very quickly... so whether it is auto, semi auto, has a banana clip... I don't care. There is no need for these guns and arguing the semantics is stupid and a distraction technique used by guys that jack off on their guns as the picture themselves taking out a home invasion robber.
 
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