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Austin man voluntarily turns in assault rifle to police

CLAX1911 said:
Playing language police than.
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It's normally never an issue, even when it happens. Nearly no one wants to continue to do something incorrectly in real life, as you profess to, here.

If a "person in a gun store", held an AKM pattern sporter and said, "this is an AK47", then of course I would disagree, as would every other knowlegable person within earshot. Because it would simply be incorrect.
 
Jimbo302 said:
It's normally never an issue, even when it happens. Nearly no one wants to continue to do something incorrectly in real life, as you profess to, here.
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That's bologna people call the engine in their car a motor all the time. And various other misnomers. I don't go on and on and on about it because I understand.

If you understand and you go on about it anyway you're just being rude. The purpose of speech is to understand not to be technically correct all the time. And I guarantee you you're not. unless you had training and all the maths and all the sciences and all the law all the languages.


that's why I said I don't tolerate persnicketiness very well. That's what you're being.
If a "person in a gun store", held an AKM pattern sporter and said, "this is an AK47", then of course I would disagree, as would every other knowlegable person within earshot. Because it would simply be incorrect.
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I've never heard anyone say that.
 
CLAX1911 said:
That's bologna people call the engine in their car a motor all the time. And various other misnomers. I don't go on and on and on about it because I understand.

If you understand and you go on about it anyway you're just being rude. The purpose of speech is to understand not to be technically correct all the time. And I guarantee you you're not. unless you had training and all the maths and all the sciences and all the law all the languages.
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Agreed, differences of little significance are often overlooked to no real negative effect. However, if a group were constantly trying to legislate private property rights regarding another item, such as your motor example, by using incorrect language, I believe I would want to make sure that information were correct as well.


CLAX1911 said:
that's why I said I don't tolerate persnicketiness very well. That's what you're being.
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I understand your point. I still believe it is important to use correct terminology when trying to discuss any important topic in depth.



CLAX1911 said:
I've never heard anyone say that.
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It was your hypothetical postulation:
CLAX1911 said:
Do you scold people that work in gun stores if they call a particular semi auto rifle an AK47?
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CLAX1911 said:
So is this in anything or just when it comes to AK-47s?

Because I guarantee you you don't use the correct language in most cases.
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I suppose it is generally anything that I am aware of the correct nomenclature of, and believe is important enough to ensure I discuss it correctly
 
Jimbo302 said:
Agreed, differences of little significance are often overlooked to no real negative effect. However, if a group were constantly trying to legislate private property rights regarding another item, such as your motor example, by using incorrect language, I believe I would want to make sure that information were correct as well.
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so if people that know what they're talkin about say we should ban semi-automatic rifles that's acceptable cuz they're using the right nomenclature?



I understand your point. I still believe it is important to use correct terminology when trying to discuss any important topic in depth.
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I'm not really discussing the history of Russian infantry rifles.




It was your hypothetical postulation:
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so how often do you correct someone when they say they're going to the gas station or they had their ultrasound done?

You can't tell me that this is about rights it's about you being persnickety and I have to tell you because I have very little tolerance for that I like to drive people that are persnickety absolutely nuts.

It's funny to me because you care about something so frivolous.
 
Jimbo302 said:
I suppose it is generally anything that I am aware of the correct nomenclature of, and believe is important enough to ensure I discuss it correctly
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The people who want to ban these things don't care about this Petty nonsense.

This is called infighting. And it's not about wanting to use proper nomenclature it's about you wanting to be right.

The sad thing is the first post I responded to you in I talked about clones.

It's all you didn't correct me and tell me that guns don't have DNA so therefore can't be cloned I mean this is constitutional rights were talking about.
 
CLAX1911 said:
so if people that know what they're talkin about say we should ban semi-automatic rifles that's acceptable cuz they're using the right nomenclature?
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I respect honesty regardless of opinion.
CLAX1911 said:
I'm not really discussing the history of Russian infantry rifles.
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Ok.


CLAX1911 said:
so how often do you correct someone when they say they're going to the gas station or they had their ultrasound done?
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I would have no reason to correct someone for using a term, that has a defined meaning, correctly.

CLAX1911 said:
You can't tell me that this is about rights it's about you being persnickety and I have to tell you because I have very little tolerance for that I like to drive people that are persnickety absolutely nuts.
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Seems as if this is your own personal issue, you do what makes you happy, man.
CLAX1911 said:
It's funny to me because you care about something so frivolous.
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Correct nomenclature in any discussion of a specific item is in no way frivolous.

CLAX1911 said:
The people who want to ban these things don't care about this Petty nonsense.

This is called infighting. And it's not about wanting to use proper nomenclature it's about you wanting to be right.
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I have no need to "want to be right".

CLAX1911 said:
The sad thing is the first post I responded to you in I talked about clones.

It's all you didn't correct me and tell me that guns don't have DNA so therefore can't be cloned I mean this is constitutional rights were talking about.
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Clone means, to copy, it is correct in the description of inanimate objects that are meant to mimic a previous design.
 
Jimbo302 said:
I respect honesty regardless of opinion.
Ok.


I would have no reason to correct someone for using a term, that has a defined meaning, correctly.
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both those terms are incorrect. The image developed from the process of ultrasound is a sonograph. and the place where you put fuel in your car is a fuel station. The fuels they sell are often liquids and often include diesel.

The fact that you didn't correct those nomenclature issues that you seem to care about means you don't care about them.

Seems as if this is your own personal issue, you do what makes you happy, man.
Correct nomenclature in any discussion of a specific item is in no way frivolous.
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if the discussion was about Russian infantry rifles yes that's not what we're discussing here.

I have no need to "want to be right".
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Sure.


Clone means, to copy, it is correct in the description of inanimate objects that are meant to mimic a previous design.
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AK-47 can mean a semi-automatic rifle.
 
Captain Adverse said:
This is news because....? :confused:

There is no obligation to own a weapon. I don't own a single firearm.

That this man chose to turn one in was his personal choice. Fine.

That he thinks this personal act, completely voluntary and for his own reasons should thereby reflect on anyone else as he opines in the article? Meaningless symbolism, as anyone who agrees can currently do the same any time they wish.

That he wants LAWS that compel people to do so? Not the same thing, as that requires others to give up their rights INVOLUNTARILY simply because HE and others of like mind choose fear over personal responsibility.

IMO anyone who gives up essential liberties in exchange for a little security eventually ends up with neither liberty nor security.

[EDIT] I did not see post #3 "This is news because?" existed. I was editing my post to it's current form and for some reason (system glitch/ human error) that other post was also created.
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FYI, this is not a breaking news or news forum, this is a general political discussion on gun control. The OP had every right to post the thread.
 
Fledermaus said:
I agree. I see the freedom Americans have to bear arms also includes the right to turn them in, destroy them, throw them into the ocean.... Let you conscience be your guide.
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i totally agree with this
 
AGENT J said:
i totally agree with this
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as do I, where I draw the line is that I have no duty to respect or follow the advice of those who do so and then demand others do the same
 
TurtleDude said:
as do I, where I draw the line is that I have no duty to respect or follow the advice of those who do so and then demand others do the same
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who said you did :shrug:

I wont be turning my guns in either
 
CLAX1911 said:
both those terms are incorrect. The image developed from the process of ultrasound is a sonograph. and the place where you put fuel in your car is a fuel station. The fuels they sell are often liquids and often include diesel.

The fact that you didn't correct those nomenclature issues that you seem to care about means you don't care about them.
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If the government attempts to ban a type of fuel, you can be certain the specific wording will need to be used.
The terms you are losing your head over have specific and defined meanings regardless of if you disagree with the root word. The same is true of the rifle nomenclature you are missing the point on.
 
Jimbo302 said:
If the government attempts to ban a type of fuel, you can be certain the specific wording will need to be used.
The terms you are losing your head over have specific and defined meanings regardless of if you disagree with the root word. The same is true of the rifle nomenclature you are missing the point on.
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I'm not a law maker.
 
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