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[W:424]Parkland Students' Gun Control Proposal Is Beyond Radical

trouble13 said:
What i notice is that everything they suggest out the onus on others to make them feel safer. They reject any suggestion that places the burden on them. They dont particularly care for the idea of being homeschooled or strip searched before entering schools.

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We should be pissed at the teachers, not the students, in this particular case. The students are merely mouth-pieces for the anti-American left, regurgitating every lie they have been told. It is not their fault that they have been turned into pawns by American-hating leftists. Replace the teachers and school administrators and give these poor students the education they deserve.
 
TurtleDude said:
That's a moronic dichotomy that has no truth behind it. It is as stupid as saying that your "right" to drive is more important than a pedestrian's right to live.
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I'm glad you mentioned that, because there are a lot of laws on the books that make driving safer. Are you opposed to those too? :)
 
trouble13 said:
Why do you think a form will stop a homicidal mass murderer?

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Well it sure seems to in Canada, Europe, Australia and japan.


They have much much less of this
 
Glitch said:
We should be pissed at the teachers, not the students, in this particular case. The students are merely mouth-pieces for the anti-American left, regurgitating every lie they have been told. It is not their fault that they have been turned into pawns by American-hating leftists. Replace the teachers and school administrators and give these poor students the education they deserve.
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Wouldnt it be interesting if teachers were required to teach both progressivism and conservatism as mandated curriculum.

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trouble13 said:
Wouldnt it be interesting if teachers were required to teach both progressivism and conservatism as mandated curriculum.

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How about reading writing and math
 
trouble13 said:
Wouldnt it be interesting if teachers were required to teach both progressivism and conservatism as mandated curriculum.

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I would settle for simply teaching basic civics. Start them off by reading the US Constitution. It is obviously a document the Parkland students have never seen before.
 
Glitch said:
I would settle for simply teaching basic civics. Start them off by reading the US Constitution. It is obviously a document the Parkland Students have never seen before.
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Gun control is constitutional
 
vegas giants said:
Well it sure seems to in Canada, Europe, Australia and japan.


They have much much less of this
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You believe its due to a form? Dont we already require people to fill out a form when they purchase a gun?

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trouble13 said:
You believe its due to a form? Dont we already require people to fill out a form when they purchase a gun?

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No we do not. I can buy a gun today legally and never even say a word to the seller. Hand him the cash and he hands me the gun
 
vegas giants said:
How about reading writing and math
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Im being serious about teaching students the differences between the left and the right in a nonpartisan objective way. You brought up the 3Rs and i would say understanding our political system is equally as important.

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trouble13 said:
Im being serious about teaching students the differences between the left and the right in a nonpartisan objective way. You brought up the 3Rs and i would say understanding our political system is equally as important.

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Actually I dont disagree with you.
 
Phys251 said:
I'm glad you mentioned that, because there are a lot of laws on the books that make driving safer. Are you opposed to those too? :)
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are you unable to comprehend that I have never opposed laws that prevent reckless use or criminal misuse of firearms? None of the stuff the bannerrhoid left proposes is designed to make shooting safer.
 
vegas giants said:
No we do not. I can buy a gun today legally and never even say a word to the seller. Hand him the cash and he hands me the gun
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Let me ask you your opinion on a compromised solution i have to this idea of registration.

What if we tied eligibility to own a gun to our drivers license and state id cards. So if you want to purchase a gun you simply presnt your ID that says you are eligible and it ends there.

Let the DMV do the check when you apply there and if the courts revoke your eligibility they suspend your license until you go get a new one showing that you are no longer eligible.

Would something along those lines be acceptable for you if passed into law?

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trouble13 said:
Let me ask you your opinion on a compromised solution i have to this idea of registration.

What if we tied eligibility to own a gun to our drivers license and state id cards. So if you want to purchase a gun you simply presnt your ID that says you are eligible and it ends there.

Let the DMV do the check when you apply there and if the courts revoke your eligibility they suspend your license until you go get a new one showing that you are no longer eligible.

Would something along those lines be acceptable for you if passed into law?

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That could work. A very reasonable solution. But it would need to be a federal law to really make an impact
 
vegas giants said:
The ammosexuals want to shut these kids up. What they forget is.....now they and millions like them can vote
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Theres also millions of other kids that can vote who dont share thier views. The media is dishonest in how it portrays it as all students having one monolithic opinion on gun control laws. I do agree with you that those that feel that way are free to express their opinion and form a voting block if they choose to do so.

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vegas giants said:
That could work. A very reasonable solution. But it would need to be a federal law to really make an impact
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Imo it offers you the solution you want in an efficent manner but it does so without creating a data base of who has guns. The database is limited to who is or isnt allowed to have them. I think thats something both sides might be able to live with.

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trouble13 said:
Let me ask you your opinion on a compromised solution i have to this idea of registration.

What if we tied eligibility to own a gun to our drivers license and state id cards. So if you want to purchase a gun you simply presnt your ID that says you are eligible and it ends there.

Let the DMV do the check when you apply there and if the courts revoke your eligibility they suspend your license until you go get a new one showing that you are no longer eligible.

Would something along those lines be acceptable for you if passed into law?

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Last time I checked driving was not a constitutionally protected right. Are you required to register with government and obtain a license before posting online? Do you think there should be a government registry of everyone's religious beliefs? Or maybe a government issued license in order to associate with more then two people? If you don't want to infringe on those constitutionally protected rights, then why would you chose to infringe on the Second Amendment? Or is this just another example of idiotic leftist hypocrisy?
 
WCH said:
March for Our Lives, the gun control group started by Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students following the tragic shooting in Parkland, Florida, on Wednesday released their comprehensive gun control plan, know as the "Peace Plan."

"We don’t have to live like this: in fear for our lives and our families. The federal government has failed in its responsibility to protect the safety and well-being of the public with regard to the nation’s gun violence epidemic. The time for comprehensive and sweeping reform is now," the group said on the plan website. "We need ambitious leadership throughout the whole of government to stand in opposition to the gun lobby and industry in order to secure a peaceful America for generations to come."


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Parkland Students' Gun Control Proposal Is Beyond Radical


Who's behind these kids?
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I suggest the gun advocates come up with some solutions to reduce the damage from these mass shootings while they can. If they indeed choose to just say no, at some point as these mass shootings continue, the choice will be taken from them. Act while you can, give a good faith effort.
 
vegas giants said:
How dare children that were shot at have an opinion on how to prevent being killed in math class
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None of their opinions would have stopped this.
 
TurtleDude said:
are you unable to comprehend that I have never opposed laws that prevent reckless use or criminal misuse of firearms? None of the stuff the bannerrhoid left proposes is designed to make shooting safer.
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Turtle, it's not about making shooting safer, it's about making the public safer. Tell me a good reason someone needs a magazine that holds fifty rounds or a hundred. As far as I'm concerned, those magazines are meant for nothing other than to kill people. Do deer hunters need fifty round magazines? Target shooters? Bear hunters, elk, moose?
 
Phys251 said:
The fact that these kids are not bending the knee to populist correctness. Some people even want to use physical force to make them bend the knee.
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A bunch of people that are hoping to become famous nationwide from their yelling are not "bending the knee". Wow that is so brave of them.
 
bongsaway said:
Turtle, it's not about making shooting safer, it's about making the public safer. Tell me a good reason someone needs a magazine that holds fifty rounds or a hundred. As far as I'm concerned, those magazines are meant for nothing other than to kill people. Do deer hunters need fifty round magazines? Target shooters? Bear hunters, elk, moose?
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won't you make the same argument for 30 or 20 rounds

either the government has the power to ban ANY number or none at all. I believe NONE AT ALL
 
TurtleDude said:
won't you make the same argument for 30 or 20 rounds

either the government has the power to ban ANY number or none at all. I believe NONE AT ALL
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Yes I would but that response did not answer the question I posed to you specifically.
 
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