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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

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    So nothing available to the public.


    Except in the one aspect that separates them. One is a fully auto the other isn't. So by your definition (hokey as it is) an AR15 can't be classified as an assault weapon. It's not an advanced military weapon and it isn't designed to kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time.

    It has the same rate of fire as any other non automatic gun.
    Right, so other than that, when a guy modifies his AR15, he has in effect - an M16 doesn't he stick. The AR15 IS as an assault weapon: that's what it was made for and then rejected for the M16.

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Right, so other than that, when a guy modifies his AR15, he has in effect - an M16 doesn't he stick.
    No, he has a modified AR-15. That is already banned.
    The AR15 IS as an assault weapon: that's what it was made for and then rejected for the M16.
    No the AR-15 was made for. It was made to be a select fire rifle. That isn't what it is today.

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    No, he has a modified AR-15. That is already banned. No the AR-15 was made for. It was made to be a select fire rifle. That isn't what it is today.
    Wrong again stick:

    Initially designed to kill enemy combatants on a battlefield, the AR-15 combat/assault rifle has had a long and controversial history.
    From Military to Mainstream: The Evolution of the AR-15 | HowStuffWorks


    Christopher Bartocci’s Combat-Reliable AR-15 Build
    Christopher Bartocci's Combat-Reliable AR-15 Build -The Firearm Blog


    Designed for law enforcement, our versatile AR-15 Combat rifle is ideal on patrol or in a tactical situation.
    Cormat AR Combat Rifle


    The AR platform has served as our country’s battle rifle since 1962, first as the M16, which was used during the Vietnam War.
    Top 20 Next-Gen Combat Rifles


    The ArmaLite 15 is a classic assault rifle. You might know it better as an M-16, the U.S. Military's version of the weapon.

    A common misconception about the AR-15 is that "AR" stands for "assault rifle," a phrase that stems from the German "Sturmgewehr" ("Storm" or "assault" rifle) used in World War II propaganda posters and later applied to military-style weapons. This shouldn't be confused with the term "Assault Weapon," a legal term for a specific class of illegal firearm during the years 1994 to 2004.

    Ironically enough, the AR-15 fits both of these descriptions: it's a military style rifle that was illegal during the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban. The "AR" in the name, however, stands for the name of the manufacturer: ArmaLite.

    1961: Eugene Stoner Becomes a Consultant at Colt

    At this time, Eugene Stoner leaves the ArmaLite company, taking a position as a consultant at Colt. Around the same time, the United States Airforce tests the AR-15, commissioning 8,500 for Air Force use.
    The Complete History of the AR-15 Rifle | Small Wars Journal



    So, do I really have to go on proving to you that you don't know what you're talking about stick? I could, but the quote time monitor will block me out...


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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Wrong again stick:



    From Military to Mainstream: The Evolution of the AR-15 | HowStuffWorks




    Christopher Bartocci's Combat-Reliable AR-15 Build -The Firearm Blog




    Cormat AR Combat Rifle




    Top 20 Next-Gen Combat Rifles




    So, do I really have to go on proving to you that you don't know what you're talking about stick? I could, but the quote time monitor will block me out...


    READ, LEARN, THINK, speak.


    1961: Eugene Stoner Becomes a Consultant at Colt

    At this time, Eugene Stoner leaves the ArmaLite company, taking a position as a consultant at Colt. Around the same time, the United States Airforce tests the AR-15, commissioning 8,500 for Air Force use.
    The several sovereign states didn't enter into their treaty so that the general government could ban arms.

    Which of congress's enumerated legislative powers would allow them to ban these arms of which you speak?

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwise View Post
    The several sovereign states didn't enter into their treaty so that the general government could ban arms.

    Which of congress's enumerated legislative powers would allow them to ban these arms of which you speak?
    Your side lost the civil war - remember? And the Supreme Court said you're wrong; ask Turtledude about that one...

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Wrong again stick:



    From Military to Mainstream: The Evolution of the AR-15 | HowStuffWorks




    Christopher Bartocci's Combat-Reliable AR-15 Build -The Firearm Blog




    Cormat AR Combat Rifle




    Top 20 Next-Gen Combat Rifles




    The Complete History of the AR-15 Rifle | Small Wars Journal



    So, do I really have to go on proving to you that you don't know what you're talking about stick? I could, but the quote time monitor will block me out...


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    Why are you calling Clax1911 "stick"?
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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Right, so other than that, when a guy modifies his AR15, he has in effect - an M16 doesn't he stick. The AR15 IS as an assault weapon: that's what it was made for and then rejected for the M16.
    And if you would modify your M1 carbine, you would in effect have an M2 carbine.

    What is your point anyway? The old "weapon of war" bleating nonsense?
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    Shotguns are not portable firearms

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Your side lost the civil war - remember? And the Supreme Court said you're wrong; ask Turtledude about that one...
    So you can't even say which of congress's enumerated powers would allow them to ban the arms you're talking about?

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by RF667799 View Post
    And if you would modify your M1 carbine, you would in effect have an M2 carbine.

    What is your point anyway? The old "weapon of war" bleating nonsense?
    The uh M2 was made later...

    Yeah, you're just going to have to go through every one of those proofs and show exactly where they are wrong and you're going to have to use credible source material to do it.

    ga'head

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    Re: Stop the Slaughter of Our Children With These Weapons of War

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwise View Post
    So you can't even say which of congress's enumerated powers would allow them to ban the arms you're talking about?
    Yeeeeaaaahhh, noooo. You're going to have to study up on the history of gun regulations in this country: they date to the time of our founding. AND you're going to have to buff up the Heller decision as well. I'm not going to do all that for you.

    So you can stop with the old dodge.

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