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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So how would your better laws be more effective?
    They would reduce gun deaths. Just look at any place with low gun deaths and see how they do it

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    They would reduce gun deaths. Just look at any place with low gun deaths and see how they do it
    Places like Chicago? You say they would reduce gun deaths. I say they would not. Has "hate crime" laws reduced the number of people assaulted?
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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Places like Chicago? You say they would reduce gun deaths. I say they would not. Has "hate crime" laws reduced the number of people assaulted?
    Places like NYC. Where is that large city or country with lax gun laws and low gun deaths?

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Places like NYC. Where is that large city or country with lax gun laws and low gun deaths?
    Bottom line, laws do not protect people as much as you want to believe. People acting responsibly makes for a safer community.

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Bottom line, laws do not protect people as much as you want to believe. People acting responsibly makes for a safer community.

    Have a good day.
    Bottom line.


    There is no large city or country on earth with lax gun laws and low gun deaths

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The idea that this is a states right issues is ridiculous. If you live in New York, for example, you have five bordering states with different gun laws. A person can just cross state laws and buy guns with less strict rules.

    The fact is not all states require a background check to purchase a firearm. This is absolutely a disgrace. A damn background check! We are not talking about an FBI investigation or you to lists all your roommates that past 10 years.

    And please, let's put an end to a couple of myths:

    1. More guns make us safer.

    Complete hogwash. Weak laws + so many firearms easily available is a recipe for gun violence. The number of civilian-owned guns is at historic highs in the United States. Far more than any other country in the world.

    2. This is a mental health issue/video games/hate crime/White supremacy issue

    EVERY country has people suffering from mental health. Every country has extremists. Every country has violence.

    This problem requires legislation and enforcement. Gun supporters need to stop with the lies.
    speculative nonsense. The federal government does not have the proper power-via the already expanded way past its intent-commerce clause, to require private citizens-engaging ONLY IN INTRASTATE second hand sales-to require background checks.


    The Brady bill-did nothing to stem violence

    The clinton gun ban-did nothing to stem violence

    The Hughes Amendment-did nothing to stem violence.

    Why do you think federal laws will now?
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    1. Pass a law requiring gun owners to lock up their guns. 80% of school shootings were by kids who stole a relative's gun.

    2. Teach coping skills to pre-high school aged kids. All these shooters have some kind of traumatic child hood event, usually bullying.

    3. Restrict magazine size to 20 rounds. Shooters tend to use 30 round clips up to 100 round drums.

    4. Make it where friends, relatives, coworkers can't get into trouble if they report a shooter to authorities. Everyone close to these shooters suspected something bad was going to happen.

    5. Remove HIPPA restrictions when it comes to background checks. If you're nutts, it's not protected information when it comes to background checks.

    6. Gun restraining orders. If your friends, families, coworkers think you're a threat, and they can convince a judge, a restraining order is issued and you can't be within a 100 yards of a gun.
    that's idiotic. and why does the government have a proper power to do this.

    if someone knows what they tell their doctor can be used to disarm them-why would they see a doctor when they are still rational enough to understand that?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Even the president just said he wants "meaningful" background checks and wants to prevent sick people from getting guns.

    So you must think the president is stupid, correct?
    Politicians pander-it is what they do. Trump is pandering to yapping emotobabblers who want SOMETHING done.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    We had good legislation in 1994. Remember the assault weapons ban. How did that get enacted despite the second amendment?
    Because the GOP loved using it against the dems for an election resource and it sunset before the supreme court would have had a chance to hear it. it was clearly unconstitutional but Heller had not been decided yet
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The idea that this is a states right issues is ridiculous. If you live in New York, for example, you have five bordering states with different gun laws. A person can just cross state laws and buy guns with less strict rules.

    The fact is not all states require a background check to purchase a firearm. This is absolutely a disgrace. A damn background check! We are not talking about an FBI investigation or you to lists all your roommates that past 10 years.

    And please, let's put an end to a couple of myths:

    1. More guns make us safer.

    Complete hogwash. Weak laws + so many firearms easily available is a recipe for gun violence. The number of civilian-owned guns is at historic highs in the United States. Far more than any other country in the world.

    2. This is a mental health issue/video games/hate crime/White supremacy issue

    EVERY country has people suffering from mental health. Every country has extremists. Every country has violence.

    This problem requires legislation and enforcement. Gun supporters need to stop with the lies.
    There are no laws you can pass that will stop gun violence.
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