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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Banning certain weapons is not a form of gun control?
    Which gun control measures, then, are you claiming can prevent mass shootings?
    Oh lots of things like registration, universal background checks, waiting periods. I am not saying they can prevent mass shootings.....I am saying they have and will continue to

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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    I know you dont care about suicides. In the US gun control reduces suicides.


    And you dont care
    No..in the US gun control does not reduce suicides... Nor does it reduce suicides in other country.

    GETTING PEOPLE THE HELP THEY NEED.. reduces suicides.

    Its amazing just how callous you anti gunners are. "well.. this person is hurting so much.. they want to kill themselves"...and your answer is not "lets get them help"..

    Its "well.. just take their guns and call it good".

    In fact.. your solution makes things worth.. because you have increased the stigma on people with mental health issues and this prevents them from seeking help.

    You and your ilk should be ashamed of yourselves.
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    No..in the US gun control does not reduce suicides... Nor does it reduce suicides in other country.

    GETTING PEOPLE THE HELP THEY NEED.. reduces suicides.

    Its amazing just how callous you anti gunners are. "well.. this person is hurting so much.. they want to kill themselves"...and your answer is not "lets get them help"..

    Its "well.. just take their guns and call it good".

    In fact.. your solution makes things worth.. because you have increased the stigma on people with mental health issues and this prevents them from seeking help.

    You and your ilk should be ashamed of yourselves.
    Yes gun control prevents suicides. And let's be clear.....the largest expansion of mental health benefits this country has ever seen is the ACA.


    And guess who wants to crush that.


    The gop supports suicide

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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Oh lots of things like registration, universal background checks, waiting periods. I am not saying they can prevent mass shootings.....I am saying they have and will continue to
    Ok, so we’re agreed no further gun control measures are necessary. Excellent.

    The problem is that you have no way of showing which, if any, current measures have prevented mass shootings. You can only claim they have but there’s no evidence.
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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Ok, so we’re agreed no further gun control measures are necessary. Excellent.

    The problem is that you have no way of showing which, if any, current measures have prevented mass shootings. You can only claim they have but there’s no evidence.
    I'm glad you agree more gun control is needed.


    Its very refreshing

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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Ok, so we’re agreed no further gun control measures are necessary. Excellent.

    The problem is that you have no way of showing which, if any, current measures have prevented mass shootings. You can only claim they have but there’s no evidence.
    Can you show any current measures / laws that have stopped robberies, murders, rape, etc? People still commit robberies, murders, rape, etc. Would more laws stop those type of crimes from happening.

    So ban the AK-47. Does that mean no AK-47's would ever be used in a crime in the US ever again?
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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    We should ban heroine, cocaine and meth. Maybe that will prevent their use.
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    See, I don't expect to be taken seriously.

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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    I'm glad you agree more gun control is needed.


    Its very refreshing
    Ahhhh, so you think I am trying to twist your position so you thought you’d be clever and do the same to me.
    Except...I went solely off what you wrote.
    You stated that current gun control measures successfully prevent mass shootings.
    You have offered no changes or different measures.
    Therefore the only conclusion is that you do not believe more measures are necessary.
    If I am mistaken, what new measures do you propose?
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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    We should ban heroine, cocaine and meth. Maybe that will prevent their use.
    /sarcasm on
    Well they are illegal drugs. We all know that once made illegal the drugs won't come into the US, be sold or used in the US. Passing a law would fix it., right.
    /sarcasm off

    I am not going to say we can't improve our gun laws. It is foolish for someone to think that by banning something that it would never by used in the US.
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    Re: [W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Can you show any current measures / laws that have stopped robberies, murders, rape, etc? People still commit robberies, murders, rape, etc. Would more laws stop those type of crimes from happening.

    So ban the AK-47. Does that mean no AK-47's would ever be used in a crime in the US ever again?
    But I’m not claiming laws prevent crime as such. Laws are meant to keep honest people honest, and regulate the dishonest.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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