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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by Slavister View Post
    Yes, all of the 2A defenders should be alarmed. If open carry is legal there, THAT IS what it looks like.

    I hope more people do this. Just to make the insanity even more obvious...
    how about open carry by a number of large black men also going into the local walmart to make sure the ammunition they purchase there is of the proper calibre; should anyone have a problem with that?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    He shouldn't have exercised his right to carry his gun into a Walmart after the El Paso incident. It's rude if nothing else.

    You can get arrested for yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The First Amendment doesn't protect you.
    the second amendment protects his right to do as he did
    and yet he was arrested for doing so
    why?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No he did not. The police department should have its ass sued and the man who assaulted the guy should be charged with felony assault with a deadly weapon.

    Some old white people are afraid of black people. Shouldn't they be arrested if they scare anyone for exercising their rights?
    anyone care to disagree with joko's astute assessment of this scenario?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, lots of people are alarms at protests. Lots of people were alarmed at BLM calling for murdering cops. They all should be arrested and prosecuted. ANYONE who does or says anything that alarms anyone else should be either shot by the police or arrested at gun point by anyone and then arrests.

    Obviously that police officer absolutely hates democracy, the legislator, governor and the laws of his state, seeing himself as total dictator of that city.

    Interesting reading so many people cheering false arrest, criminally assaulting someone with a gun, and declaring police can eliminate anyone's specific legal rights anytime they want to.

    Since the man wasn't even touching his gun and it is an open carry state, you literally have a police officer - absolutely a radical Democrat - openly advocating for outright murder - as that is what it would be if anyone had shot him.
    He should have been detained at the police station and then released.

    For being an idiot

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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Wow, just wow people.

    Holding a firearm in and of itself isn't a big deal, but wearing body armor while doing so is.

    It's usually a dead giveaway, that you are about to engage a crime, and don't want to get killed by police gunfire.

    And it is NOT unreasonable for people to assume that.
    If you have to resort to insults, name calling, ad hominem attacks, straw men, red herrings, appeals to authority, and other dirty debate tactics, the veracity of you argument is questionable.

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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    He should have been detained at the police station and then released.

    For being an idiot
    but all he did was exercise his Constitutional right to bear arms

    isn't detainment an infringement of said right?

    and are idiots [idiots as in common expression and not determined as such by the courts] not allowed to bear arms?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Dmitriy Andreychenko Arrested At Springfield, Missouri Walmart Wearing Body Armor, Carrying Assault Rifle



    what was the problem with this adult bearing arms in public, such that the police spokesman stated that he was lucky to still be alive for publicly bearing arms

    all of you second amendment defenders, did this fellow do anything other than exercise his Constitutional right to bear arms?
    I was thinking much the same thing. If open carry is legal, how do we report "nut with gun"?

    People need to know. No?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by beancounter View Post
    Wow, just wow people.

    Holding a firearm in and of itself isn't a big deal, but wearing body armor while doing so is.

    It's usually a dead giveaway, that you are about to engage a crime, and don't want to get killed by police gunfire.

    And it is NOT unreasonable for people to assume that.
    where is the prohibition on wearing body armor?
    and what causes one to relinquish their Constitutional right to bear arms while wearing body armor?
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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but all he did was exercise his Constitutional right to bear arms

    isn't detainment an infringement on said right?

    and are idiots [idiots as in common expression and not determined as such by the courts] not allowed to bear arms?
    Police have total discretion to detain someone and remove them from the scene if they present a potential danger to the public.

    Total discretion

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    Re: 'He's lucky to be alive still, to be honest,' says Springfield Police Lieutenant Mike Lucas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the second amendment protects his right to do as he did
    and yet he was arrested for doing so
    why?
    Missouri is an open-carry state. But its laws do prohibit gun owners from displaying their weapons in a threatening way.

    For instance, even someone who holds a valid conceal-carry endorsement and is openly carrying a gun can run afoul of the law "if the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense."

    Rifle-Carrying Man Arrested After Causing Panic At Walmart In Missouri : NPR



    Let's see if the judge lets him go.

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