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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Toggle Almendro View Post
    Nice appeal to authority fallacy.

    I'm not mistaken. There is no compelling government interest in outlawing pistol grips on a semi-auto rifle.
    You were the one who called the NY SAFE law unconstitutional, and I pointed out that the most Libertarian SCOTUS in history dropped the case. And this is your response? Last I checked, the SCOTUS decides what is constitutional and what is not.

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    You were the one who called the NY SAFE law unconstitutional, and I pointed out that the most Libertarian SCOTUS in history dropped the case. And this is your response? Last I checked, the SCOTUS decides what is constitutional and what is not.
    I guess we will see what happens with that idiocy in the future
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    You were the one who called the NY SAFE law unconstitutional, and I pointed out that the most Libertarian SCOTUS in history dropped the case. And this is your response? Last I checked, the SCOTUS decides what is constitutional and what is not.
    That law is presumed constitutional

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Yes they do.
    That is incorrect. Pistol grips do not make a gun more concealable.


    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Yes if the government says so
    That is incorrect.

    Assault weapons have either full-auto or burst fire capability. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun does not.

    Assault weapons have detachable magazines. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun does not.

    Assault weapons are effective at a range of 300 meters. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun is not.

    Assault weapons fire rounds that have less recoil than a standard rifle. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun can fires shells that have considerable recoil.


    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    That law is presumed constitutional
    Not when no one can point out any compelling government interest for it.

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    You were the one who called the NY SAFE law unconstitutional, and I pointed out that the most Libertarian SCOTUS in history dropped the case. And this is your response?
    Correct. That is my response.


    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    Last I checked, the SCOTUS decides what is constitutional and what is not.
    Appeals to authority are a logical fallacy.

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    These AR weapons are way too much for personal defense.
    That is incorrect. Ordinary rifles are perfectly appropriate for self defense.


    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    No one needs anything more than a small handgun for home and personal defense.
    We're not serfs here in America like they are in Europe. We get to use whatever we want, and it's none of anyone's business whether we need it.


    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    For hobbyists, they can be made available for use limited to gun ranges. Such ranges are very popular in Europe.
    For Americans, they can be kept in the home and used for self defense.


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    IOW, they are a big liability
    Ordinary rifles are no liability at all.


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    and have no use for unrestricted public use.
    That is incorrect. Ordinary rifles are used for both hunting and self defense.

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Toggle Almendro View Post
    That is incorrect. Pistol grips do not make a gun more concealable.



    That is incorrect.

    Assault weapons have either full-auto or burst fire capability. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun does not.

    Assault weapons have detachable magazines. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun does not.

    Assault weapons are effective at a range of 300 meters. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun is not.

    Assault weapons fire rounds that have less recoil than a standard rifle. A Mossberg 500 pump shotgun can fires shells that have considerable recoil.



    Not when no one can point out any compelling government interest for it.
    Wrong. It is easier to conceal.

    Wrong. A potato is a assault weapon if federal law classifies it as onr.

    Wrong. Every law is presumed constitutional until a court days otherwise despite whatever legal opinion you may have

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    It makes the weapon easier to conceal. That's enough for compelling interest
    That is total nonsense - adding to the dimensions of something does not make it easier to conceal. Adding the pistol grip makes it easier to control recoil, allowing for faster accurate follow up shots.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is total nonsense - adding to the dimensions of something does not make it easier to conceal. Adding the pistol grip makes it easier to control recoil, allowing for faster accurate follow up shots.
    Thank you for your opinion

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Toggle Almendro View Post
    That is incorrect. Ordinary rifles are perfectly appropriate for self defense.



    We're not serfs here in America like they are in Europe. We get to use whatever we want, and it's none of anyone's business whether we need it.



    For Americans, they can be kept in the home and used for self defense.



    Ordinary rifles are no liability at all.



    That is incorrect. Ordinary rifles are used for both hunting and self defense.
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    Ever notice that those who know the LEAST about firearms and how to use them, are the first to tell those of us who do, what we can use these firearms for?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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