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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    We've averaged about one a day in 2019. I don't call that rare. My bar is not that low. Maybe yours is...
    out of 300 million plus people? I think look for any excuse to try to pass harassing legislation. I really don't think you really care about saving lives, since if saving lives was your goal, there are many things that kill far more people than the less than 500 people a year who are killed in real mass shootings
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    We've averaged about one a day in 2019. I don't call that rare. My bar is not that low. Maybe yours is...
    Once you accept that the gop wants to increase these shootings not decrease them...it starts to make sense

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    As the death count is still rising from the three horrendous mass shootings in the past week, and innocent victims continue to suffer in hospital beds, you have to ask yourself why gun owners are so stubborn about assault-style weapons. You would think that responsible, law-abiding gun owners who own common-sense weapons would be the first ones to desire a ban on assault-style weapons.

    These weapons have no use for hunting. They are also impractical for self-defense. Their sole purpose is to kill people, and a lot of people.

    Undoubtedly, we'll see the usual quibbling about definitions of assault weapons, types of triggers, gun add-ons, etc. If these folks are such experts on these weapons, they are the exact people that should draft the meaningful legislation to ban them nationwide.

    We will see the usual 2nd Amendment references. C'mon - folks from the late 1700s would roll over in their graves, if they saw the carnage of our "civilized" society.

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    He declared on PBS that the Second Amendment "has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

    This quote is from 1991. Justice Burger's words ring even more TRUE today.
    The only problem is.. we are the experts.. and that's why we know that in no way will a assault weapons ban will work. AND by the way.. after that quote from Burger.. we had an assault weapons ban. and a high capacity magazine ban. for TEN.. that's right 10 years.. and you know what they found when they studied what 10 years of assault weapons ban did for crime, violence etc.

    Researchers found that there was no significant effect on crime, injury from firearms, shootings etc. NO statistically significant effect.

    But hey. lets not use valid research, science and logic to make our decisions shall we?

    Lets use emotion and ignorance. Look at how well its worked with drug use in American, solving immigration.. and healthcare!..

    Lets add assault weapons to the list.. because surely.. every mass murderer.. planning on shooting up a school... is going to be deterred by an assault weapons ban!..

    Look how well banning marijuana has worked!..
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    Personally, I enjoy living within the law. If people want to keep their bumpstocks, they are no longer living within the law. You just never know when they might have to face the consequences.
    Yeah.. we need to incarcerate people who own bumpstocks and haven't committed any violent act except own a block of steel. Heck.. thousands of them were sold and one guy misused his. Ban them all.

    Up next.. pressure cookers!..

    That's your logic at work there.
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yeah.. we need to incarcerate people who own bumpstocks and haven't committed any violent act except own a block of steel. Heck.. thousands of them were sold and one guy misused his. Ban them all.

    Up next.. pressure cookers!..

    That's your logic at work there.
    Well that is that gun banner trump for you.

    A vote for him is a vote for a gun banner

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Well that is that gun banner trump for you.

    A vote for him is a vote for a gun banner
    Yep.. trump has a long history of being against guns. In fact.. he is probably the single biggest threat to gun rights given that the republicans won't hold him responsible when he is anti gun.. because the democrats are so much worse.

    The population which is generally not anti gun.. has held anti gun legislators responsible for their lack of common sense. Gore.. ended up paying for the antigun bills under Clinton. Even Clinton admitted that the anti gun legislation cost the democrats dearly.

    Obama was smart enough to know better.. and the truth of the matter is.. he stayed away from the gun issue as much as possible. Because he knew that politically it was a third rail for democrats.

    No one is going to switch their vote from republican to democrat because the democrats are going to ban guns.

    But a lot of people did switch their vote from democrat to republican because of the democrats anti gun stance (Clintons)… and the same may end up happening in this next election...

    Its very possible that if the democrats come out swinging on gun control.. Trump wins again.
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yep.. trump has a long history of being against guns. In fact.. he is probably the single biggest threat to gun rights given that the republicans won't hold him responsible when he is anti gun.. because the democrats are so much worse.

    The population which is generally not anti gun.. has held anti gun legislators responsible for their lack of common sense. Gore.. ended up paying for the antigun bills under Clinton. Even Clinton admitted that the anti gun legislation cost the democrats dearly.

    Obama was smart enough to know better.. and the truth of the matter is.. he stayed away from the gun issue as much as possible. Because he knew that politically it was a third rail for democrats.

    No one is going to switch their vote from republican to democrat because the democrats are going to ban guns.

    But a lot of people did switch their vote from democrat to republican because of the democrats anti gun stance (Clintons)… and the same may end up happening in this next election...

    Its very possible that if the democrats come out swinging on gun control.. Trump wins again.
    Go ahead. Vote for a gun banner. Dont blame me when he sells you out. Lol

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Go ahead. Vote for a gun banner. Dont blame me when he sells you out. Lol
    I haven't.

    But you will be.
    So we should put you down as supporting putting GPS trackers in everyone to "save lives"?
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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    I haven't.

    But you will be.
    I will be what?

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    Re: There Weren't any US Mass Shootings Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    As the death count is still rising from the three horrendous mass shootings in the past week, and innocent victims continue to suffer in hospital beds, you have to ask yourself why gun owners are so stubborn about assault-style weapons. You would think that responsible, law-abiding gun owners who own common-sense weapons would be the first ones to desire a ban on assault-style weapons.
    First you've got to define what an assault style weapon is. Is a weapon an assault style weapon based on function? If that's the case then assault style weapons already are banned. Is a weapon an assault style weapon based on cosmetics? Should a weapon be banned just because it looks like something that a front line soldier might use as a primary weapon, even if it isn't?

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