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Pro Gun Control does not equal Anti Gun

vegas giants said:
Ahhhh but it is very very low in NYC per capita because they have effective gun control and are surrounded by other states with effective gun control
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No, they're not.
 
Waddy said:
Short enough if you're seriously gun shopping. Or hauling a trunk full to NYC.
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That must be why there are so may gun murders in nyc....oh.....wait...
 
pinqy said:
Assault rifles made after 1986 are already banned, and any made earlier require registration and a $200 tax.
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Quibbling by gun owners does nothing to advance their efforts. It's quite pathetic.

Question after Orlando: Are assault rifles banned? No, only fully automatic are basically prohibited | PolitiFact Wisconsin

Semiautomatic weapons, like the rifle Mateen carried, reload automatically but fire only once each time the trigger is depressed.

They are not banned by federal law.

From 1994 to 2004, there was a federal law that banned the sale of certain types of new semiautomatic weapons, including some types of AR-15 rifles. A limit on high-capacity magazines also was set.

The law, which was adopted to last for 10 years, was not renewed by Congress when it expired.
 
Media_Truth said:
Quibbling by gun owners does nothing to advance their efforts. It's quite pathetic.

Question after Orlando: Are assault rifles banned? No, only fully automatic are basically prohibited | PolitiFact
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That’s not true. Weapons that fire a three round burst are also classified as machine guns.



Semiautomatic weapons, like the rifle Mateen carried, reload automatically but fire only once each time the trigger is depressed.
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And so, by definition, are not assault rifles.

They are not banned by federal law.
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No reason they should be

From 1994 to 2004, there was a federal law that banned the sale of certain types of new semiautomatic weapons, including some types of AR-15 rifles. A limit on high-capacity magazines also was set.

The law, which was adopted to last for 10 years, was not renewed by Congress when it expired.
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Thad assault weapons ban was on the basis of cosmetic features. You could have two guns identical in caliber, range, accuracy, rate of fire, and on was legal and one not. It made no sense.
 
pinqy said:
That’s not true. Weapons that fire a three round burst are also classified as machine guns.




And so, by definition, are not assault rifles.


No reason they should be


Thad assault weapons ban was on the basis of cosmetic features. You could have two guns identical in caliber, range, accuracy, rate of fire, and on was legal and one not. It made no sense.
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There is a link for questioning Politifact. You can continue your quibbling with them. Meanwhile, the rest of us will take a common-sense non-quibbling approach towards assault weapons.
 
Media_Truth said:
There is a link for questioning Politifact. You can continue your quibbling with them. Meanwhile, the rest of us will take a common-sense non-quibbling approach towards assault weapons.
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Ok, what is an assault weapon, as opposed to a regular semi-automatic rifle, and why do they need more regulation and banning? What is your common-sense approach? (In my experience, "common sense" means "I don't have an explanation and cannot support my claim; but I'm convinced I'm correct an am not open to considering alternatives.)
 
pinqy said:
Ok, what is an assault weapon, as opposed to a regular semi-automatic rifle, and why do they need more regulation and banning? What is your common-sense approach? (In my experience, "common sense" means "I don't have an explanation and cannot support my claim; but I'm convinced I'm correct an am not open to considering alternatives.)
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Banning assault weapons is pointless. 30 -06 is far more deadly as are many weapons
 
jimbo said:
Show me a safe storage device that I can access in 4 or 5 seconds in the event of need and I'll pay attention.
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I mean you could just google that. That's all I would do to answer your question, google it and post few results.
 
Media_Truth said:
There is a link for questioning Politifact. You can continue your quibbling with them. Meanwhile, the rest of us will take a common-sense non-quibbling approach towards assault weapons.
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I don't care what you call them, banning guns is unconstitutional.
 
Media_Truth said:
There is a link for questioning Politifact. You can continue your quibbling with them. Meanwhile, the rest of us will take a common-sense non-quibbling approach towards assault weapons.
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Nothing rational or common sense comes from the left on "assault weapons"/ When someone uses that term to describe modern sporting rifles or common handguns, we know that their proposals will not have any semblance of common sense.
 
pinqy said:
Ok, what is an assault weapon, as opposed to a regular semi-automatic rifle, and why do they need more regulation and banning? What is your common-sense approach? (In my experience, "common sense" means "I don't have an explanation and cannot support my claim; but I'm convinced I'm correct an am not open to considering alternatives.)
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any one who calls them "assault weapons" is almost guaranteed not to have a common sense approach.
 
apdst said:
I don't care what you call them, banning guns is unconstitutional.
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No it's not. Where'd you get that ridiculous notion? Guns, in their different forms, have been banned in different areas of the United States, at different times in history, since the founding of our country.
 
pinqy said:
Ok, what is an assault weapon, as opposed to a regular semi-automatic rifle, and why do they need more regulation and banning? What is your common-sense approach? (In my experience, "common sense" means "I don't have an explanation and cannot support my claim; but I'm convinced I'm correct an am not open to considering alternatives.)
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Keep quibbling...
 
Media_Truth said:
Keep quibbling...
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How am I quibbling? I do not know what you consider to be an assault weapon or what you think differentiates it from non-assault weapons or any you think they need more regulation.

And if your approach is co.Mon sense, then why won't you share what it is.

I suspect that you never actually thought about it a d only have a very vague idea in your head. And you're proving my thoughts on use of "common sense" to be correct.
 
Media_Truth said:
Keep quibbling...
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Translation-you are ignorant of the issue and you are upset that someone like Pinqy clearly knows far more about this topic than you do. Which is to be expected because what motivates most anti gun posters is a dislike of the politics of gun owners, rather than specific information about guns and gun use
 
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