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Another "Good Guy" with a Gun

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daeler said:
Same guy with a knife? same outcome? Maybe it isn't the gun.
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We do not have 15,000 knife homicides per year in the US. Do you know why?

Because it's easier to kill with a gun.
 
calamity said:
We do not have 15,000 knife homicides per year in the US. Do you know why?

Because it's easier to kill with a gun.
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It is easier, doesn't change the outcome. If this guy didn't have a gun(since he is a cop he would have had one anyway no matter what laws you wanted to pass) I doubt the outcome would have been any different. The problem isn't the gun. It is the person. People should really start there when looking for a fix for this problem.
 
calamity said:
We do not have 15,000 knife homicides per year in the US. Do you know why?

Because it's easier to kill with a gun.
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Less than a quarter the rate of death by alcohol.
 
Threegoofs said:
Sorry, this is the 'gun control' forum.

You're only supposed to post gushing praise for guns and gun owners.

You need to move this post somewhere else.
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Posting a question or an idea on types of gun control is usually welcomed and then debated, just saying "we should get rid of guns" isn't really a good starting point. The problem here is you have a police officer who would have a gun no matter what laws there are.

Unless you want to disarm law enforcement as well?
 
daeler said:
Posting a question or an idea on types of gun control is usually welcomed and then debated, just saying "we should get rid of guns" isn't really a good starting point. The problem here is you have a police officer who would have a gun no matter what laws there are.

Unless you want to disarm law enforcement as well?
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No.

What’s welcomed usually are posts like ‘hey- like this gun I’ve got in my pants?’

And then the forum posters all talk about how they love the gun in his pants and talk about the guns in their pants, as well as past encounters with guns in their pants in the past and jealously of other men’s guns in their pants.

And if someone says ‘hey- we should really have less guns in peoples pants’ everyone shouts ‘freedom!’, and mentions how pants are legally allowed by the constitution to have guns in them.
 
Threegoofs said:
No.

What’s welcomed usually are posts like ‘hey- like this gun I’ve got in my pants?’

And then the forum posters all talk about how they love the gun in his pants and talk about the guns in their pants, as well as past encounters with guns in their pants in the past and jealously of other men’s guns in their pants.

And if someone says ‘hey- we should really have less guns in peoples pants’ everyone shouts ‘freedom!’, and mentions how pants are legally allowed by the constitution to have guns in them.
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Umm I think you are on the wrong forum, you seem to equate a gun to something else.
 
lwf said:
Less than a quarter the rate of death by alcohol.
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Or for that matter, there is a much higher rate of death from cigarettes than from guns. Second hand smoke alone results in more death than guns.
 
daeler said:
It is easier, doesn't change the outcome. If this guy didn't have a gun(since he is a cop he would have had one anyway no matter what laws you wanted to pass) I doubt the outcome would have been any different. The problem isn't the gun. It is the person. People should really start there when looking for a fix for this problem.
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Show me 15,000 knife homicides per year, and maybe I'll give the stupid "b..b..but knives!" argument some credence. Until then, no. Knives are not nearly the problem that guns are.
 
Threegoofs said:
Sorry, this is the 'gun control' forum.

You're only supposed to post gushing praise for guns and gun owners.

You need to move this post somewhere else.
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As a matter of fact, as a strong advocate for gun rights, I often like to hear what the other side has to say. It's boring if everybody always agrees. So if you're against gun rights I would like to hear what you have to say, provided you're serious and civilized about it and you don't resort to mockery and name calling as the gun control side so often does.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Or for that matter, there is a much higher rate of death from cigarettes than from guns. Second hand smoke alone results in more death than guns.
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Cigarettes are restricted, taxed and banned from countless places. I'm fine with doing that re: guns.

Are you?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... are we now into disarming police officers to stem "gun violence"? What, exactly, is your "gun control" policy proposal that would have stopped this person from having "access to" a gun?
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They can leave their guns at the station when they go home. No?
 
calamity said:
A real good guy, it seems...at least until he went bad.

Newark cop shoots and kills ex-wife, wounds her boyfriend, authorities say - nj.com



Man have gun. Man get mad. Man kill. Pretty standard stuff.

It's high-time we get rid of some guns.
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Yeah lets disarm cops. that is the drivel you are posting. Another thread attempting to smear gun owners based on the UNLAWFUL actions of an individual

DO you even bother to think about the nonsense you post? Even under the most beloved environment the gun banners want, cops would still have guns.
 
TurtleDude said:
Yeah lets disarm cops. that is the drivel you are posting. Another thread attempting to smear gun owners based on the UNLAWFUL actions of an individual

DO you even bother to think about the nonsense you post? Even under the most beloved environment the gun banners want, cops would still have guns.
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Well, obviously this good guy could not be trusted to have a gun. Correct?
 
lwf said:
Less than a quarter the rate of death by alcohol.
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If gun banners thought most drinkers supported Trump, they would be channeling Carry Nation
 
Threegoofs said:
Sorry, this is the 'gun control' forum.

You're only supposed to post gushing praise for guns and gun owners.

You need to move this post somewhere else.
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Are you upset that trying to use what a police officer did with a gun, is a really stupid attempt to smear gun owners?
 
Threegoofs said:
No.

What’s welcomed usually are posts like ‘hey- like this gun I’ve got in my pants?’

And then the forum posters all talk about how they love the gun in his pants and talk about the guns in their pants, as well as past encounters with guns in their pants in the past and jealously of other men’s guns in their pants.

And if someone says ‘hey- we should really have less guns in peoples pants’ everyone shouts ‘freedom!’, and mentions how pants are legally allowed by the constitution to have guns in them.
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Nope, there are forums devoted entirely to guns, the kinds of forums which you would not join if you don't like guns, those are the kinds of forums where such stuff is discussed.
 
calamity said:
Show me 15,000 knife homicides per year, and maybe I'll give the stupid "b..b..but knives!" argument some credence. Until then, no. Knives are not nearly the problem that guns are.
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Just look at the UK, particularly London.
 
daeler said:
Umm I think you are on the wrong forum, you seem to equate a gun to something else.
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I think he is upset that gun owners don't support the politicians he wants elected- Mainly politicians who want more and more government control of private property to stop "global warming". His posts reflect the sort of thing I mentioned in my first post.
 
calamity said:
Well, obviously this good guy could not be trusted to have a gun. Correct?
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So what is your solution-lets see one rather than yet another attempt to smear gun ownership based on the unlawful actions of others. You gun banners constantly claim people need to be vetted more in order to own guns (assuming you even think people should be allowed to own guns) but everyone of you gun banners or gun restrictionists seem happy to have governmental agents armed to the teeth.
 
TurtleDude said:
So what is your solution-lets see one rather than yet another attempt to smear gun ownership based on the unlawful actions of others. You gun banners constantly claim people need to be vetted more in order to own guns (assuming you even think people should be allowed to own guns) but everyone of you gun banners or gun restrictionists seem happy to have governmental agents armed to the teeth.
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The "good guy" in the op could not be trusted to have a gun. Is that correct?
 
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