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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    The Minx *is* is what I referred to above. But I called it a Model 25, which was wrong. It's actually a Model 950. I had one. It's a cool little gun, about the size of a hardpack of smokes. But it was solid, well-built, well machined, and reliable. It also had this great feature where you press a little lever that looks like a safety, and instead a spring actuated mechanism pops the barrel up for cleaning!

    Considering the state of general technology and industrial manufacturing in the 60's/70's, along with the usual Italian penchant for poor manufacturing and quality control, I found the Berettas from that era to be really well manufactured. I think they were the equal of whatever Colt, Smith, and Browning were doing at the time.
    My firearm of choice for personal protection is an S@W 357. It's already saved my wife's and my life. When it's time to put up or shut up, I want something that isn't going to jam, and packs a punch.
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I never thought Italian guns were poorly made-in the late 70s I won the Junior Nationals with a Perazzi MT 6 Olympic skeet gun and it was as well made a gun I ever shot. And I have one of those little Minx-950s (single action) in 22LR. I bought it at a range-a woman came in at closing and said her boyfriend got it for her but she wanted something bigger. The owner noted his cost on a new one was much less than what she had bought it for and thus he didn't need a used one. So i offered her a fair price (around 80 bucks IIRC)-new they were about 120, and I still have it, though I haven't shot it in over 20 years.
    Another testament to old Beretta/Italian guns, was that in the early-to-mid 80's the Illinois State Police adopted Berreta 9mm's for their official side arm. They were one of the first state depts to go foreign made pieces and/or 9mm, and they caught a lot of "Buy American" flack over it. Of course there also was a huge amount of concern and controversy over the perceived stopping power of a 9mm too, but everyone agreed having 11 or 14 rounds was a big deal compared to six-shooters.

    I don't remember the details, but for some reason they nixed getting 1911's. Either cost, or perhaps too heavy of a caliber for control & accuracy?

    Crazy as it sounds, CPD still mandated the standard .38 Special back then! But the good coppers got around it by carrying .357 back-ups. To keep up with the bad guys moving to autos, they would carry multiple speed-loaders. Not a great solution to go up against guys with extended capacity mags, but it is what it is. Anything more than 38 Special in the dense urban environment, was thought to be too hazardous at the time.
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    My firearm of choice for personal protection is an S@W 357. It's already saved my wife's and my life. When it's time to put up or shut up, I want something that isn't going to jam, and packs a punch.
    That's the classic defense of wheelguns. Along with simplicity of operation.
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    That's the classic defense of wheelguns. Along with simplicity of operation.
    True-plus you can mix several different rounds in a wheel gun-while many modern autos can sort of handle that-there is absolutely no issue loading a wheel gun with 3 hot 357s with three mild 38S wad cutters. also a wheel gun (the 8 shot SW 327s) are good for using against a ballistic shield-there is no slide to jam. The knocks against wheel guns are ergonomically autos are better-especially the gripping and the high competition grip we use on autos can get your left thumb dinged if your cylinder doesn't line up perfectly with the barrel. Plus-while you can slick up a Double action on a smith revolver really well, you cannot get the trigger pull anywhere near as smooth and light as you can on a 1911 or say a CZ-75 (and single action shooting a revolver is too slow for most people for defensive work)

    the other big advantage of a wheel gun-if you have hard primers or a bad round-you just pull the trigger again
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    True-plus you can mix several different rounds in a wheel gun-while many modern autos can sort of handle that-there is absolutely no issue loading a wheel gun with 3 hot 357s with three mild 38S wad cutters. also a wheel gun (the 8 shot SW 327s) are good for using against a ballistic shield-there is no slide to jam. The knocks against wheel guns are ergonomically autos are better-especially the gripping and the high competition grip we use on autos can get your left thumb dinged if your cylinder doesn't line up perfectly with the barrel. Plus-while you can slick up a Double action on a smith revolver really well, you cannot get the trigger pull anywhere near as smooth and light as you can on a 1911 or say a CZ-75 (and single action shooting a revolver is too slow for most people for defensive work)

    the other big advantage of a wheel gun-if you have hard primers or a bad round-you just pull the trigger again
    Yep, no need to clear squib rounds, just pull the trigger again - simplicity of operation. Not just simplicity for mechanical reliability, but for user friendliness too. If you have someone you would not want to try to teach to drive a stick, I wouldn't want to teach them to shoot an automatic!

    But interesting your mentioning different loads in the same revolver. While still living in my old dense & busy city neighborhood, one of our city-girl divorcée neighbors married a widowed farmer. Actually, they were both seniors in their sixties. He was literally a farmer from WI. The real deal. No idea why, but he left the farm and moved into her house in the city. He was the quintessential salt-of-the-earth, man of few words, no nonsense farmer.

    So when one night their garage got tagged with graffiti, he was beyond obsessed. He stayed-up all night, every night, starring out of the rear bedroom window from a blacked-out room for several weeks, 12ga in hand. And his load? First round was rock salt, next two were bird, then buck from there out! It was the first time I heard of different loads in the same weapon. I was impressed with his creativity. He didn't care if he was now in the city or not, he was going to give someone a taste of salt if the messed with his property!

    Luckily, nothing came of it. But the guy garnered a lot of respect from us in the neighborhood, and we welcomed him with open arms. It didn't hurt that word got out on the street.
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    Re: My new pistol!

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    That's why people open carry
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
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    Nothing fancy mind you, but it's mine, and it's perfect for my purse... and shoot outs in elevators
    I like it. Have a very old airweight that was my father's. During summer with lightweight clothing it is my carry gun. I always reccomend my lady friends that a revolver like the airweight is the way to go. Simple to operate. Safe. Easily concealable and quite effective.

    Short barreled revolvers are what i call belly guns. You are.going to be quite close in a defensive situation. I doubt you will have time for that classic weaver stance. Best thing you can do for sights on that pistol is crimson trace laser grips. That and practice. Practice shooting in awkward positions, one handed even weak hand. It will give you an idea of what you can accomplish with laser sights and learn your limitations.

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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by rickc View Post
    I like it. Have a very old airweight that was my father's. During summer with lightweight clothing it is my carry gun. I always reccomend my lady friends that a revolver like the airweight is the way to go. Simple to operate. Safe. Easily concealable and quite effective.

    Short barreled revolvers are what i call belly guns. You are.going to be quite close in a defensive situation. I doubt you will have time for that classic weaver stance. Best thing you can do for sights on that pistol is crimson trace laser grips. That and practice. Practice shooting in awkward positions, one handed even weak hand. It will give you an idea of what you can accomplish with laser sights and learn your limitations.
    And practice aiming and shooting (dry fire/snap caps) without drawing the revolver from the purse.
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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I know several guys who fly fish in Alaska and their handgun of choice is a Glock 10MM due to the fact it carries 15 rounds, is very easy to fire quickly and accurately, and weighs far less than those big hand cannon N or bigger framed Smith Revolvers. Hot 10MM is a very potent round and 4-5 of them in a couple of seconds is probably more likely to stop anything compared to one hit of a big 460 or 500 revolver round
    I hope they have more than just a handgun. Handguns are only a back-up firearm, because it is damn difficult to cast while holding a 12-guage. I wouldn't use a rifle under .40 cal. much less a handgun. That is the smallest caliber Alaskan bear guides will allow, before they start adding several thousand dollars to the bill. Even then it would be damn difficult to take down a brown bear with just a handgun. Even the .50 cal. Desert Eagle only has 1,531 foot pounds at the muzzle. My Ruger .44 Mag is only 1,100 foot pounds at the muzzle, and I'm using hot loads. You need a minimum of 2,000 foot pounds on contact to stop a big animal like a bear, and no handgun will do that. Which is why my camp gun is a 12-guage loaded with .65 cal. sabot slugs.

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    Re: My new pistol!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    I hope they have more than just a handgun. Handguns are only a back-up firearm, because it is damn difficult to cast while holding a 12-guage. I wouldn't use a rifle under .40 cal. much less a handgun. That is the smallest caliber Alaskan bear guides will allow, before they start adding several thousand dollars to the bill. Even then it would be damn difficult to take down a brown bear with just a handgun. Even the .50 cal. Desert Eagle only has 1,531 foot pounds at the muzzle. My Ruger .44 Mag is only 1,100 foot pounds at the muzzle, and I'm using hot loads. You need a minimum of 2,000 foot pounds on contact to stop a big animal like a bear, and no handgun will do that. Which is why my camp gun is a 12-guage loaded with .65 cal. sabot slugs.
    Bingo.
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