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2nd Amendment Run Amok

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I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....

The officers were responding to a domestic disturbance call when Grady Wayne Wilkes – clad in camouflage body armor and a helmet – opened fire, authorities said. A spokesperson with the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency later confirmed to Fox News that Wilkes has been arrested.


Alabama gunman in camouflage kills police officer, wounds two others, officials say | Fox News
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Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of it ecer happening are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely thing to happen. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, armor and clothing. None.
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So you want to ban someone having combat boots or a M65 Field jacket

and define what is a military grade weapon in light of the Heller/McDonald Paradigm.
 
TurtleDude said:
So you want to ban someone having combat boots or a M65 Field jacket

and define what is a military grade weapon in light of the Heller/McDonald Paradigm.
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like obscenity, we know it when we see it :)
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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There is no mention in your OP link as to what weapon (or the existence of multiple weapons) was used. Neither the camo, body armor nor helmet are related to the 2A in any way. The story did mention that a witness reported hearing *gasp* nine shots fired - of course, how many of those shots may have been fired by the responding police officers was not stated.
 
calamity said:
like obscenity, we know it when we see it :)
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Yes but even obscenity is subjective. To some, gays holding hands in public is obscene. The law cannot be subjective like that so TDs request is a valid one.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....
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Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house? No doubt you've at least got fire insurance, most people do. There is nothing wrong with being prepared for a house fire and by the same token there is nothing wrong with being prepared for a home invader. The fact of the matter is you're three times as likely to have your home invaded than you are of having a house fire.

There is nothing wrong with playing with guns as long as you play safely.

As for the gunman in the article, there are sick people in this world, your point?

calamity said:
Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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So are you saying civilians shouldn't have access to a Sig Sauer XM17 9mm handgun? That is the standard sidearm of army officers so you can say its "military grade." Should a civilian be able to buy a Ontario MK 3 Navy Knife? It is a knife used by Navy SEALS so you can say its "military grade." And what is wrong with owning body armor? You certainly can't shoot and kill somebody with body armor. As for camo, are you now saying that clothing should be regulated? People shouldn't be able to buy certain clothes because of its color? That's absurd.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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Just to be clear, the 2nd Amendment cannot "run amok". Only animate objects can do that.

But hey...who cares about literary precision when you are in spin and hyperbole mode, right?
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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Calling a weapon Military grade is so subjective that you really have to be more specific on what you want to get rid of, There are so many arguments for civilians to have some form of Camo and or Body Armor that your whole statement seems preposterous.
 
Why does anyone pay attention to this troll turd and the threads it starts?
 
calamity said:
Are you not aware of Justice Potter's infamous assertion?

I know it when I see it - Wikipedia



sheesh
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I certainly am since I knew the late Justice (he was a native of Cincinnati) but that point stands and your argument is worthless since pornography is illegal while "military" weapons are protected by the second in cases where they are firearms
 
calamity said:
Justice Potter disagrees :roll:
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You pretending to speak for Justice Potter is one of the great gut busters in modern history.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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Your opinion noted. Again.

Personally, I doubt you are "sorry" at all, but that's just my opinion.
 
calamity said:
Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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The reason for the 2nd Amendment is so civilians cannot be denied the means of defending themselves against a tyrannical government.

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” - Thomas Jefferson

It is very clear that civilians need the same type of weaponry that a standing army would have.

Military troops use the M-4 carbine, which uses 5.56 NATO ammunition.

Civilians have the semi-auto AR-15 carbine which can also be chambered for 5.56 NATO ammunition.

Its vitally important that civilians have access to the same (or equivalent) weapons as the Military.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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You want to ban body armor and camouflage clothing, now? :lamo

even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none.
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Do you lock your doors? Have an alarm system?
 
dogboy49 said:
My dad used to use Sky Chief exclusively. Don't see Texaco stations any more...... :boohoo:
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And your point is what, exactly?

Please be specific.

Thanks.
 
calamity said:
I get having a gun to defend loved ones and your home from ghastly intruders, even though the odds of that ever happening, for most of us, are slim to none. I certainly get being a female and carrying a gun to defend against sexual assault, a far more likely event. And, I guess, I can almost understand why a grown man needs to play with guns, like a kid playing cowboys and Indians. But, this....



Sorry, but there should be no right for civilians to have military grade weapons, body armor and camo. None.
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Really, now you want to regulate the color of people's clothing? Isn't that special.
 
Tlrmln said:
So, based on looks. That's even special-, um, "-er".
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I don't even think he believes most of what he posts on gun issues. Banning camo is beyond idiotic and the term "military grade" is nothing more than a specious attempt to demonize firearms to those who are clueless about the subject. Most of the angst comes from the fact that gun advocates and the NRA helped defeat Hillary and the Trump haters are still unable to get over that.
 
SkyChief said:
And your point is what, exactly?

Please be specific.

Thanks.
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??? There is no "point". My dad thought Sky Chief gasoline was better than the
other brands. I still have fond memories of my dad driving to the local Texaco
station and filling up the family station wagon, back in the '50's.

Not many people remember this old Texaco logo, which you are using for your
avatar.

sky_chief.jpg
 
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