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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorr View Post
    As for the UK gun laws, we responded to the Dunblane shooting but taking appropriate steps to ensure it never happened again -
    It did happen again, tho. Your 'steps' meant nothing because you did not address the root problem.

    Also, accepting some level of crime as normal does not mean we condone the crime.
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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

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    Because you do see reports of the owner being arrested for doing so every once in a while.
    Why punish somebody for refusing to be a victim?

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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How many people die due to gun violence in the UK per year? Asking for a friend.
    Does it matter? Just because people don't die due to gun violence doesn't mean they don't get their lives cut short by other means.

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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Casca XV View Post
    A very common type of crime in the UK over the last 10 years is a group of Bad Guys in broad daylight walk up and knock on the front door of a home. Knowing the family is defenseless, when the door is answered they shove their way in. They rape the wives and daughters in front of the Husbands/Fathers and Sons/Brothers. They rob them and often murder the entire Family.

    Per Capita of population this type of home invasion seldom happens in the US, because the our Bad Guys know that if they pick the wrong Family they could get shot.
    The most common type of crime in the UK is 'hate crime. The outlawing of anything resembling freedom of speech is far more an attack on liberty than anything to do with guns.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...m-prayer-room/

    In should be noted that the 'prayer rooms' provided in UK hospitals and other public place in the UK are notionally there for 'all faiths'. Actually they have been taken over by Muslims who now see them as their property.
    Just another example of the creeping Islamisation that the US has yet to experience.

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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How many people die due to gun violence in the UK per year? Asking for a friend.
    This is London 2018

    Among the 119 homicides in 2018, there have been 68 stabbings, 12 shootings and two deaths involving a knife and a gun.

    A third of the cases involved victims aged 16 to 24. Of these, 30 were stabbed, nine were shot, two died in attacks involving a knife and a gun, and one died in a fall.

    For the teenagers aged 15 to 19, six were shot and 14 were stabbed.

    Police say London’s situation is not unique in England and Wales, and have warned of “Wild West” violence sweeping the country as children as young as nine are found carrying knives....

    ...The Metropolitan Police Violent Crime Task Force, which was set up in response to violence that broke out in spring, seized 340 knives, 40 guns and 258 other offensive weapons in its first six months of operation. It also made more than 1,350 arrests.


    London killings to hit 10-year high after 2018 total exceeds whole of 2017 | The Independent

    Not quite Chicago... And how are all these shootings happening when there is strict gun control?
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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How many people die due to gun violence in the UK per year? Asking for a friend.
    Not sure, but I do know that, before either the US or the UK passed any real gun control laws, the US had about 8 times the murder rate of the UK. Now the ratio is about 4 to 1.

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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    This is London 2018

    Among the 119 homicides in 2018, there have been 68 stabbings, 12 shootings and two deaths involving a knife and a gun.

    A third of the cases involved victims aged 16 to 24. Of these, 30 were stabbed, nine were shot, two died in attacks involving a knife and a gun, and one died in a fall.

    For the teenagers aged 15 to 19, six were shot and 14 were stabbed.

    Police say London’s situation is not unique in England and Wales, and have warned of “Wild West” violence sweeping the country as children as young as nine are found carrying knives....

    ...The Metropolitan Police Violent Crime Task Force, which was set up in response to violence that broke out in spring, seized 340 knives, 40 guns and 258 other offensive weapons in its first six months of operation. It also made more than 1,350 arrests.


    London killings to hit 10-year high after 2018 total exceeds whole of 2017 | The Independent

    Not quite Chicago... And how are all these shootings happening when there is strict gun control?
    1. Never understood why cons single out Chicago's homicide rate when year after year, St. Louis's and New Orleans's--both of which are in red states--are consistently higher.

    2. Speaking of homicide rates. By your own numbers, London, which had 8.8 million people in 2017, had a homicide rate of 1.1/100k in the same year. That's slightly higher than that of Boise, Idaho. Maybe you also think Boise is a dangerous place?
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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    1. Never understood why cons single out Chicago's homicide rate when year after year, St. Louis's and New Orleans's--both of which are in red states--are consistently higher.

    2. Speaking of homicide rates. By your own numbers, London, which had 8.8 million people in 2017, had a homicide rate of 1.1/100k in the same year. That's slightly higher than that of Boise, Idaho. Maybe you also think Boise is a dangerous place?
    Chicago stands out because guns are effectively banned yet hundreds die by gun....

    That and many quote it because that is where President Obama came from.

    London stats stand out because there are gun deaths even though guns are effectively banned.
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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    1. Chicago stands out because guns are effectively banned yet hundreds die by gun....

    2. That and many quote it because that is where President Obama came from.

    3. London stats stand out because there are gun deaths even though guns are effectively banned.
    1. St. Louis and New Orleans, which are stuck in states with high gun liberties, have astronomically high murder rates.

    2. Ah, so it's ODS. Got it.

    3. As I clearly said, London's homicide rate is incredibly low. It's a very safe city.
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    Re: Gun Control in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    1. St. Louis and New Orleans, which are stuck in states with high gun liberties, have astronomically high murder rates.

    2. Ah, so it's ODS. Got it.

    3. As I clearly said, London's homicide rate is incredibly low. It's a very safe city.
    1. Perhaps gun laws are not the solution.

    2. Plenty of that going around.

    3. Shouldn't there be zero gun deaths with handguns being banned?
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