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    Re: Minority Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by zsu2357 View Post
    I hope you don't mean 40,000 "gun murders".
    Do you care ?

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I suspect the alcohol deaths are self inflicted unlike the gun murders
    Actually, the vast majority if those 40,000 people killed by firearms are suicides.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    Actually, the vast majority if those 40,000 people killed by firearms are suicides.
    We have to make the penalties for committing suicide, more severe, in order to cut down on those numbers








    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Debaters often cite the black market. But search warrants could help hinder the black market. Besides, a lot of the black market consists of stolen guns that were once legally held.

    There's gunrunning but that can be intercepted by the military.

    The army could distribute weapons to civilians if there's an imminent threat of foreign invasion. Just instead of everyone being constantly armed.

    Banning close combat weapons would be difficult as they are legal in certain contexts. For instance criminals could easily hide kitchen knives.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Another safeguard against tyranny would be to allow minority groups to wear a different uniform in the army. The uniform alerts others as to whose side they're on. It's not legalising defection but merely a precaution. In fact seperate uniforms are probably legal under free speech.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael McMahon View Post
    Another safeguard against tyranny would be to allow minority groups to wear a different uniform in the army. The uniform alerts others as to whose side they're on. It's not legalising defection but merely a precaution. In fact seperate uniforms are probably legal under free speech.
    Wait, what on earth are you talking about? how would different uniforms do that?
    Scripture, facts, science, and stats is how I argue.

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael McMahon View Post
    Debaters often cite the black market. But search warrants could help hinder the black market. Besides, a lot of the black market consists of stolen guns that were once legally held.

    There's gunrunning but that can be intercepted by the military.
    Because this is working so well with drugs?

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    Re: Minority Rights

    Safeguard against tyranny? Unfortunately gun rights advocates are laboring under the delusion that Joe Nobody will one day spring from his lazy boy in a shower of empty beer cans and grab his gun to save us all from the tyranny of a government that could kill any one of us from anywhere in the world. This isn’t the 18th century. There is no defense against such a government.

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    Hi. In terms of the uniform I suppose in any war what determines who shoots at who is the uniform that they're wearing. Unless you're a spy, soldiers will wear their own side's uniform to avoid friendly fire. I'm certainly not saying it's a cure-all but perhaps it might make defection a bit easier if needed.

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    Re: Minority Rights

    In terms of the drugs analogy I think the problem is very different. It's a lot harder to make guns. Ghost guns and improvised homemade guns are quite rare and, I imagine, very difficult to make. I don't think impure gunpowder works compared to the extent of impure illegal drugs.

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