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Gun Rights Advocates vs Gun Control Advocates

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Here is the difference between gun rights advocates and gun control advocates. Aside from the obviously opposite sides they take on the gun debate the gun rights advocates have got logic, the gun control advocates have got emotion.
 
The vast majority of gun rights advocates are open and honest about the reasons they support gun rights. Many of the gun control advocates are not.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Here is the difference between gun rights advocates and gun control advocates. Aside from the obviously opposite sides they take on the gun debate the gun rights advocates have got logic, the gun control advocates have got emotion.
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You must be kidding. I've seen some wacked out liberals totally lose control of their emotions, on the street, inside cafes, on TV, anywhere! You never see conservatives lose it like that.

EDIT: My bad -- totally read the last part of your last sentence wrong. Totally agree with you. Sorry!
 
augustus said:
You must be kidding. I've seen some wacked out liberals totally lose control of their emotions, on the street, inside cafes, on TV, anywhere! You never see conservatives lose it like that.

EDIT: My bad -- totally read the last part of your last sentence wrong. Totally agree with you. Sorry!
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My point exactly, the liberals are all emotion. At least the ones that want more gun control.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Here is the difference between gun rights advocates and gun control advocates. Aside from the obviously opposite sides they take on the gun debate the gun rights advocates have got logic, the gun control advocates have got emotion.
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Who’re you trying to kid? There’s plenty of emotion on both sides of the debate.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Who’re you trying to kid? There’s plenty of emotion on both sides of the debate.
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Yes the gun rights crowd can be emotional but they've also got logic, something the gun control crowd lacks.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Who’re you trying to kid? There’s plenty of emotion on both sides of the debate.
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There will be plenty of emotion if the government comes to take the guns of American citizens who legally own them.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Yes the gun rights crowd can be emotional but they've also got logic, something the gun control crowd lacks.
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Good thing all 2A supporters don’t think like you. Arbitrarily dismissing your opponents is a weakness. Sure, many anti-gunners are whining, ignorant snowflakes, but not all of them. There are smart, calculating anti-gunners who’ve had successes in part because they were underestimated.
 
Integrityrespec said:
There will be plenty of emotion if the government comes to take the guns of American citizens who legally own them.
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Don’t fret. The likelihood of that happening is near zero.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Good thing all 2A supporters don’t think like you. Arbitrarily dismissing your opponents is a weakness. Sure, many anti-gunners are whining, ignorant snowflakes, but not all of them. There are smart, calculating anti-gunners who’ve had successes in part because they were underestimated.
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The anti-gunners are all uneducated.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Who’re you trying to kid? There’s plenty of emotion on both sides of the debate.
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That's just not true. One side is completely logical like a perfect machine and the other is just a ball of nerves. That is obviously the only dynamic that exists.
 
MrPeanut said:
That's just not true. One side is completely logical like a perfect machine and the other is just a ball of nerves. That is obviously the only dynamic that exists.
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Not so.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Who’re you trying to kid? There’s plenty of emotion on both sides of the debate.
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Sure, but pro-gun is not based on emotion. Surely you see the difference.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Don’t fret. The likelihood of that happening is near zero.
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it happened with machine guns. They're gone. It happens all the time with Red Flag laws.

No revolt. No nothing. Gun owners just bend over and take it.
 
Wayne Jr said:
Sure, but pro-gun is not based on emotion. Surely you see the difference.
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Neither stance is purely based on emotion or logic.

Wayne Jr said:
it happened with machine guns. They're gone. It happens all the time with Red Flag laws.
No revolt. No nothing. Gun owners just bend over and take it.
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The government didn’t take away legally owned machine guns.
 
Next they’ll be after our steak knives, they’re already after our cows for farting.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
The government didn’t take away legally owned machine guns.
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Yes they did, by banning them they prevented future possession. That's confiscation. Preventing future possession is the same as coming into your house and taking something you already have.
 
augustus said:
You must be kidding. I've seen some wacked out liberals totally lose control of their emotions, on the street, inside cafes, on TV, anywhere! You never see conservatives lose it like that.

EDIT: My bad -- totally read the last part of your last sentence wrong. Totally agree with you. Sorry!
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Sure you do...head on over to the Abortion sub-forum.

It's ridiculous to make this about emotion = conservative/liberal....
 
Disclaimer: I am neither a "liberal" nor "anti-gun". I am a gun owner and am okay with guns being reasonably available to the general public.

As per usual from the right-wing, your argument is almost entirely strawman, along with some insults to the libs, and praise for your fellow simpletons, so they don't get lost in any real conversation.

I would certainly agree that most politicians, and especially Democrats, tend to be incredibly ignorant on the topic of firearms, and therefore their gun control measures are stupid and ineffective.
However, there's also some serious issue with the conservatives stone-walling any investigation into gun-related issues for fear of upsetting the NRA, so we don't have nearly the information we probably should to make educated policy decisions on the subject.

Any attempt to re-classify things as "assault weapons" or to ban specific platforms (ie. AR-15s) is ridiculous and won't work. You need to have clear, concise, and universally applicable policies, if you're going to make them at all. Personally, I do not agree with passing legislation targeting gun sales or ownership directly. I think, if you really want to lower gun ownership and violence, you need to start by getting rid of things that make people want to take that route. Policies that actually address poverty, education, healthcare, mental health, and something more passive like universal background checks will do a lot more to help the people than arbitrarily banning AR-15s or high capacity mags.
 
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