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Waiting on The NRA

jet57 said:
But in order to be consistent, the NRA has to declare for American Muslims. They declared for teachers - as a group dude. How about addressing THAT instead of deflecting.
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You're comparing apples to oranges. If find an example of them saying such for say, a Christian church, or something. You're comparing unlike things to make a weak point.
 
jet57 said:
So why hasn't the NRA come out and declared that all Muslims and Imans should be armed? The declared for teachers and everyone else, but it seems Muslims don't count? Is that it? Moreover, I've noticed that the gun crowd around here has been pretty quite on declaring such a thing as well? Is the second amendment only for nonMuslims?

What's up the silence?
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Armed in New Zealand?


Why not ask the NRA of New Zealand?

National Rifle Association of New Zealand
Home >> National Rifle Association of New Zealand

Who is this site for?

This site is aimed at

new shooters who want to try target rifle shooting
existing members who can get up to date information
our member clubs and associations as a way of helping attract new members
media and others who are interested in our position on Fullbore Target Shooting related matters

History of NRANZ

An outline history of the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the Trentham Rifle Ranges. This chronology of events is based on information researched and supplied in part, by Michael Kelly, Heritage Consultant and Russell Murray, Conservation Architect. Information was also sourced from the records and archives of the National Rifle Association of New Zealand.

History of NRANZ >> National Rifle Association of New Zealand
 
jet57 said:
Why did the NRA declare for teachers as a group, but not same for Muslims?
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You don't think Muslims can be teachers?

Teachers are forbidden from caring guns to work by the state. Their rights are being stomped on by state and local governments. If Muslims were forbidden from carrying guns to work if absolutely understand them speaking up for them.

Muslim teachers were spoken up for with regard to teachers. The word teachers isn't exclusionary of Muslims.

Apply the noodle and then get back to me.
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Teachers includes Muslims.
 
CLAX1911 said:
You don't think Muslims can be teachers?

Teachers are forbidden from caring guns to work by the state. Their rights are being stomped on by state and local governments. If Muslims were forbidden from carrying guns to work if absolutely understand them speaking up for them.

Muslim teachers were spoken up for with regard to teachers. The word teachers isn't exclusionary of Muslims.


Teachers includes Muslims.
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No; I said apply the noodle dude. You're not there yet. Stop trying to avoid the topic and just answer the very simple question that's been laid right at your feet: a six year old - who's been paying attention (that's the tricky part), would have this whipped on the first reply.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Armed in New Zealand?


Why not ask the NRA of New Zealand?

National Rifle Association of New Zealand
Home >> National Rifle Association of New Zealand

Who is this site for?

This site is aimed at

new shooters who want to try target rifle shooting
existing members who can get up to date information
our member clubs and associations as a way of helping attract new members
media and others who are interested in our position on Fullbore Target Shooting related matters

History of NRANZ

An outline history of the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the Trentham Rifle Ranges. This chronology of events is based on information researched and supplied in part, by Michael Kelly, Heritage Consultant and Russell Murray, Conservation Architect. Information was also sourced from the records and archives of the National Rifle Association of New Zealand.

History of NRANZ >> National Rifle Association of New Zealand
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The Prime minister has announced that in ten days time, they're going to have a discussion with NRAZ.

But I'm talking about NRA-A: why have they not declared that all Muslims should be armed?
 
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jet57 said:
No; I said apply the noodle dude. You're not there yet. Stop trying to avoid the topic and just answer the very simple question that's been laid right at your feet: a six year old - who's been paying attention (that's the tricky part), would have this whipped on the first reply.
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You aren't making much sense now. The question was why did the NRA single out teachers, my answer is they didn't, state and local governments did.

The NRA was advocating for a restoration of their rights.

I'm not aware that state and local governments firebase Muslims from carrying guns.

It's apples and oranges.
 
jet57 said:
Well, why haven't they declared for American Muslims? They declared for American teachers - as a group.
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They have declared for American Muslims, the NRA wants all good law abiding American citizens to have the choice to be armed, and that includes Muslim Americans.
 
jet57 said:
But I'm talking about NRA-A: why have they not declared that all Muslims should be armed?
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They have, or at least they've declared that all Muslim Americans should have the choice to be armed, the NRA is about gun rights for all Americans and that includes Muslim Americans.
 
jet57 said:
The Prime minister has announced that in ten days time, they're going to have a discussion with NRAZ.

But I'm talking about NRA-A: why have they not declared that all Muslims should be armed?
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Enlighten me what other groups the NRA declared should all be armed. Hint there are not any!! The key word is all.
Why couldn't a Muslim be armed? As long as they are not a prohibited person there is no problem!
Just you trying and failing to bash the NRA!
 
jet57 said:
Your avatar doesn't lie... finally - someone who gets it.
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These NRA folks, and most American citizens think that this is the way it has to be. You look at other countries - very few deaths by firearms. We're still living like Barbarians.
 
Media_Truth said:
These NRA folks, and most American citizens think that this is the way it has to be. You look at other countries - very few deaths by firearms. We're still living like Barbarians.
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More left wing-NRA hate. Mainly because when the Democrat party adopted gun control as a facade to cover the fact that the Democrats tend to be weak on violent crime, the NRA started mobilizing people to vote against Democrat gun controllers.
 
Winston said:
For those seemingly unaware....

There are Muslims inside America too.
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The last background check I had, there was no question concerning religion. I wasn't aware there was a problem.
 
TurtleDude said:
More left wing-NRA hate. Mainly because when the Democrat party adopted gun control as a facade to cover the fact that the Democrats tend to be weak on violent crime, the NRA started mobilizing people to vote against Democrat gun controllers.
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I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent. The NRA promotes policies that lead to carnage, death and destruction.
 
jet57 said:
But in order to be consistent, the NRA has to declare for American Muslims. They declared for teachers - as a group dude. How about addressing THAT instead of deflecting.
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Did you know there's a difference between a public school where states exercise control over (and regularly ban) firearms on the grounds and a religious building where the property owner controls what they allow?


Apparently you didn't.
 
Media_Truth said:
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent. The NRA promotes policies that lead to carnage, death and destruction.
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Just like that OTHER deadly three-letter organization that also ends with an "Association": AAA.
 
jet57 said:
So why hasn't the NRA come out and declared that all Muslims and Imans should be armed? The declared for teachers and everyone else, but it seems Muslims don't count? Is that it? Moreover, I've noticed that the gun crowd around here has been pretty quite on declaring such a thing as well? Is the second amendment only for nonMuslims?

What's up the silence?
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What a bizarre message. Muslims fall into the category of "everyone" - other than apparently the OPer.

So, jet57, why do YOU says Muslims are excluded from the human race? The NRA doesn't. But YOU do in your OP message.
 
Media_Truth said:
These NRA folks, and most American citizens think that this is the way it has to be. You look at other countries - very few deaths by firearms. We're still living like Barbarians.
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No, barbarians would use swords, axes, and clubs, not guns.
 
Media_Truth said:
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent. The NRA promotes policies that lead to carnage, death and destruction.
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Well you are very liberal on your view on guns and gun rights.
 
Media_Truth said:
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent. The NRA promotes policies that lead to carnage, death and destruction.
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That's idiotic. Democrats-who have spent years making excuses for criminals and creating an environment of single parent homes-which is the single biggest determinative of whether a kid ends up a mope-are trying to shift the blame to hide their very real and substantial contributions to the creation of a criminal class in the USA
 
DebateChallenge said:
Well you are very liberal on your view on guns and gun rights.
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Statist and freedom hating are the proper terms. Liberal views on gun rights used to mean freedom supporting.
 
Media_Truth said:
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent. The NRA promotes policies that lead to carnage, death and destruction.
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YOu're views seem to emulate reactionary parasitic statism.
 
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