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Waiting on The NRA

jet57 said:
So why hasn't the NRA come out and declared that all Muslims and Imans should be armed? The declared for teachers and everyone else, but it seems Muslims don't count? Is that it? Moreover, I've noticed that the gun crowd around here has been pretty quite on declaring such a thing as well? Is the second amendment only for nonMuslims?

What's up the silence?
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If you're talking about New Zealand Muslims, I wasn't aware the NRA concerns itself with people from other countries including New Zealanders whether they're Muslim or not. The NRA is an American organization and thus it concerns itself with the USA and its citizens, including Muslim American citizens.
 
jet57 said:
But-but- the NRA? Aren't they for arming everyone?
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Nope, only Americans.

If they were for arming everybody globally than you would have to take the "National" part out of NRA.
 
jet57 said:
So, American Muslims should just sit there and wait for the great white horde to just come and ratta-tat-tat them? Where's the NRA when they're needed the most?
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American Muslims who want to be able to defend themselves should take the means to do so and that includes getting guns and getting training with guns if that's how they want to do it.
 
Winston said:
Those of which have to worry about either a crazed white male or a racist white male blowing their heads off with a weapon they bought at a Walmart last week.
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So they should be armed so they can shoot back.
 
jet57 said:
So, American Muslims should just sit there and wait for the great white horde to just come and ratta-tat-tat them? Where's the NRA when they're needed the most?
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No one is stopping American Muslims from having armed guards or worshipers in their respective congregations. I don't know what you're talking about.
 
Fishking said:
No one is stopping American Muslims from having armed guards or worshipers in their respective congregations. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Well, one thing is certain - the White Supremacists will ALL be armed to the teeth. They make no bones about it - they hate Muslims and they hate dark-skinned people. Perhaps as part of the Seminary training of Muslim preachers and Black Baptists preachers, they should include courses on how to handle semi-automatic weapons. I can see their course itinerary -

8 am - Spirituality and the Universe
10 am - the Major Religions of Mankind
12:30 pm - Believers, Agnostics and Atheists
2:00 pm - AK47 training
3:30 pm - Scripture Study
 
Media_Truth said:
Well, one thing is certain - the White Supremacists will ALL be armed to the teeth. They make no bones about it - they hate Muslims and they hate dark-skinned people. Perhaps as part of the Seminary training of Muslim preachers and Black Baptists preachers, they should include courses on how to handle semi-automatic weapons. I can see their course itinerary -

8 am - Spirituality and the Universe
10 am - the Major Religions of Mankind
12:30 pm - Believers, Agnostics and Atheists
2:00 pm - AK47 training
3:30 pm - Scripture Study
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What is amusing is that those who are most likely to howl about "white supremacists" or that "Trump is a dictator or fascist" are usually the same people who think only criminals and the government should be armed.
 
jet57 said:
So, American Muslims should just sit there and wait for the great white horde to just come and ratta-tat-tat them? Where's the NRA when they're needed the most?
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Are Americans who are also Muslim forbidden from owning fire arms?

The NRA is the national rifle association. They fight for the citizens rights to keep and bear arms. If your Muslim are black person or Hindu or whatever and your citizen. The NRA has already said that that's their mission that's the reason why they exist.


Why do you think Muslims aren't part of the American citizenry?
 
TurtleDude said:
What is amusing is that those who are most likely to howl about "white supremacists" or that "Trump is a dictator or fascist" are usually the same people who think only criminals and the government should be armed.
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I find it fascinating that the supply of white supremacy is far less than the demand for it.

I guess people in times of peace generate their own conflict.
 
Media_Truth said:
Well, one thing is certain - the White Supremacists will ALL be armed to the teeth. They make no bones about it - they hate Muslims and they hate dark-skinned people. Perhaps as part of the Seminary training of Muslim preachers and Black Baptists preachers, they should include courses on how to handle semi-automatic weapons. I can see their course itinerary -

8 am - Spirituality and the Universe
10 am - the Major Religions of Mankind
12:30 pm - Believers, Agnostics and Atheists
2:00 pm - AK47 training
3:30 pm - Scripture Study
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Or...they can just have police presence or have members of the congregation voluntarily arm themselves?
 
Bum said:
It says "American Citizens"...….it does not say muslim, Christian, Hebrew, Sikh, firefighter, lefthanded gay underwater basket weavers, or any of the tens of thousands of labels that some seem to think matter so much.

Unless of course you are under the impression that there are no Muslim American Citizens?

Does the NRA have to advocate for 2nd Amendment rights for everyone American Citizen by specific identity group?

Or did you just need something to make noise over?
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Yeah I'll go for noise on his part. I might even say racist loudmouth but it might hurt his feelings.
 
DebateChallenge said:
If you're talking about New Zealand Muslims, I wasn't aware the NRA concerns itself with people from other countries including New Zealanders whether they're Muslim or not. The NRA is an American organization and thus it concerns itself with the USA and its citizens, including Muslim American citizens.
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I wasn't either but how can Ms.Cortez be wrong? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Attacks the NRA Over the New Zealand Mosque Shootings - The Truth About Guns
Even when something happens on the other side of the world it's always somehow connected to the NRA. Go figure.
 
Bum said:
It says "American Citizens"...….it does not say muslim, Christian, Hebrew, Sikh, firefighter, lefthanded gay underwater basket weavers, or any of the tens of thousands of labels that some seem to think matter so much.

Unless of course you are under the impression that there are no Muslim American Citizens?

Does the NRA have to advocate for 2nd Amendment rights for everyone American Citizen by specific identity group?

Or did you just need something to make noise over?
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Ahh, the "deflection" tactic. They declared for teachers - as a group -, why not for Muslims?
 
jamesrage said:
You are the one trying to falsely claim the NRA doesn't want American Muslims to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. The NRA is supportive of all Law abiding American citizens owning and carrying guns. That pretty much encompasses Americans of different religions, ethnicity, races and sexes.
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So when did I say that the NRA doesn't want to? I only asked - "why haven't they".

Try telling the truth and then we can continue.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Nope, only Americans.

If they were for arming everybody globally than you would have to take the "National" part out of NRA.
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Well, why haven't they declared for American Muslims? They declared for American teachers - as a group.
 
Fishking said:
No one is stopping American Muslims from having armed guards or worshipers in their respective congregations. I don't know what you're talking about.
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But in order to be consistent, the NRA has to declare for American Muslims. They declared for teachers - as a group dude. How about addressing THAT instead of deflecting.
 
Media_Truth said:
Well, one thing is certain - the White Supremacists will ALL be armed to the teeth. They make no bones about it - they hate Muslims and they hate dark-skinned people. Perhaps as part of the Seminary training of Muslim preachers and Black Baptists preachers, they should include courses on how to handle semi-automatic weapons. I can see their course itinerary -

8 am - Spirituality and the Universe
10 am - the Major Religions of Mankind
12:30 pm - Believers, Agnostics and Atheists
2:00 pm - AK47 training
3:30 pm - Scripture Study
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Your avatar doesn't lie... finally - someone who gets it.
 
TurtleDude said:
What is amusing is that those who are most likely to howl about "white supremacists" or that "Trump is a dictator or fascist" are usually the same people who think only criminals and the government should be armed.
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More off topic regurgitation.
 
jet57 said:
That's not a declaration from the NRA for Muslims to be armed - is it.
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It's a declaration for all people, regardless of faith, to be able to legally carry a gun in their place of worship.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Are Americans who are also Muslim forbidden from owning fire arms?

The NRA is the national rifle association. They fight for the citizens rights to keep and bear arms. If your Muslim are black person or Hindu or whatever and your citizen. The NRA has already said that that's their mission that's the reason why they exist.


Why do you think Muslims aren't part of the American citizenry?
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Why did the NRA declare for teachers as a group, but not same for Muslims?

Apply the noodle and then get back to me.
 
apdst said:
It's a declaration for all people, regardless of faith, to be able to legally carry a gun in their place of worship.
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Deflect and avoid, that's your way.
 
TurtleDude said:
Whining about the NRA over something that happened in New Zealand? Idiocy
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Nope; proving what a bunch of hypocritical lying bastards your handlers really are.
 
jet57 said:
Nope; proving what a bunch of hypocritical lying bastards your handlers really are.
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That's idiotic twice over/ I don't have handlers and there is nothing relevant about your pathetic rants about the NRA concerning what happened in NZ. We get the fact that you hate the NRA-and rather than blame yourself for allowing your state to be run by bannerrhoid assholes like Brown and Newsome-you blame the NRA. But the fact is-your solution to stupid gun laws is to try to spread that stupidity so it infects the rest of the USA
 
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