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    Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

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    Supreme Court reinstates Sandy Hook families’ lawsuit against gunmaker - StamfordAdvocate


    NEWTOWN - The state’s highest court has sided with the Sandy Hook families whose wrongful death lawsuit against the nation’s oldest gunmaker was thrown out of court, by ordering the high-profile case back to trial court.

    The Connecticut Supreme Court’s ruling on Thursday means that the families’ argument that Remington “negligently entrusted” to civilians the AR-15-style rifle used by the Sandy Hook massacre shooter can be decided by a jury.


    The jury will weigh that argument against Remington’s defense that the company is protected by a federal law that shields gun makers from liability when firearms are misused.

    “It falls to a jury to decide whether the promotional schemes alleged in the present case rise to the level of illegal trade practices and whether fault for the tragedy can be laid at their feet,” part of the ruling reads.
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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    I hope the plaintiffs lose and are forced to pay the court costs

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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    So I suppose we should sue car companies for all the car accidents, after all you say this is good.

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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    If I was on the jury, I know how I would vote. I would not hold the gunmaker liable.
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    Yes, those promotional schemes that forced a middle aged single mom to buy a specific gun should be under closer review.
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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    Quote Originally Posted by DebateChallenge View Post
    So I suppose we should sue car companies for all the car accidents, after all you say this is good.
    And even sue voters who vote to elect politicians who do bad things

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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I hope the plaintiffs lose and are forced to pay the court costs
    I hope the defense points out that the federal government used to sell military surplus, semiautomatic, magazine fed intermediate caliber firearms to US citizens without background checks for $20 including shipping.
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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Very good.
    Assuming for a moment this this goes forward, it opens up a mess that might be difficult to contain as applied elsewhere.

    The original suit is based on two premises. One, that a gun designed "as a battlefield weapon to maximize fatalities" should have never been "entrusted... to an untrained civilian public." Two, that all the companies involved intentionally promoted the weapon with "placement in video games and macho militaristic marketing slogans that appealed to a population of mentally unstable young men."

    By that standard then just about any gun used by the military, or by extension law enforcement, could be isolated as a means to find liability by the manufacturer when used to commit any crime by anyone else. Because this is a civil matter the burden of proving point one and two is fairly low.

    In the pursuit of accountability we create an odd condition.

    By that standard I can prove that certain cars, in combination with how they are depicted in various video games and in combination how they are advertised (a bit of a stretch,) should not be entrusted to the "untrained" public either.

    Also, by that standard I can prove that anyone killed by gang violence means going after those weapon manufacturers regardless of advertising intention or legality of product purchase. It just means changing a few definitions and applying some different reasoning to points one and two.

    In other words, we have no real way to ensure this does not domino into other aspects of product liability, arguably some by the wording of any future suit but not really. It all comes down to the nature of the event, the suit, and how the jury handles both points as applied to any product.

    In our efforts to reconsider gun control we may be making a very big mistake even if this is a perceived win in terms of what happened at Sandy Hook. Example, who I do not see named in the suit are those to manufactured the medications the shooter in this case was taking, nor the "psychiatrist/therapist" dealing with him.

    My main concern is even if we suggest this is a big win for those who oppose gun manufactures, what is next? (And how much fallout will this win cost everyone else across a plethora of products.)
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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I hope the defense points out that the federal government used to sell military surplus, semiautomatic, magazine fed intermediate caliber firearms to US citizens without background checks for $20 including shipping.
    Sounds like a bad idea.
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    Re: Court reinstates Sandy Hook lawsuit against gunmaker

    I wish the media would stop using half-truth headlines ...

    Headline blares "Supreme Court ...", making one think it is the Supreme Court, when in fact it is "Connecticut Supreme Court ..."
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