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Half Washington sheriffs refuse to enforce new gun laws

zsu2357 said:
Has WA. offered up a 20 limit on ammo a month? Don't think it will go anywhere but...stocking up. Most of them from Kalistan.
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I haven't followed such details. We used to open carry back in the 70's, in both Oregon and Washington when I lived in The Dalles.
 
Rucker61 said:
By whom? Who has authority over a county sheriff?

Law enforcement officials aren't required to enforce unconstitutional laws.
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They also are not allowed to judge for themselves what laws are "unConstitutional. Use your head man.
 
iguanaman said:
They also are not allowed to judge for themselves what laws are "unConstitutional. Use your head man.
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They have the capacity to form an opinion of what is and is not constitutional. When you swear to uphold the constitution,you err to that side.

I guess you prefer an authoritarian or totalitarian regime over a constitutional government.
 
Lord of Planar said:
They have the capacity to form an opinion of what is and is not constitutional. When you swear to uphold the constitution,you err to that side.

I guess you prefer an authoritarian or totalitarian regime over a constitutional government.
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Gun banners distrust the citizens and worship government. It is a rather consistent theme.
 
TurtleDude said:
Gun banners distrust the citizens and worship government. It is a rather consistent theme.
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Most of them also seem to be the same who rely on the government to legally steal and redistribute our money to them.
 
iguanaman said:
They also are not allowed to judge for themselves what laws are "unConstitutional. Use your head man.
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Yes, they are. The only ones they have to report to are the people of their county. My sheriff refused t9 enforce unconstitutional laws and was reelected without opposition.
 
ryzorsden said:
LOL well apparently they aren't even enforcing laws now.

But for me to tell them to do their jobs isn't breaking the law. It's the first amendment. The one they are supposed to protect.

Oh ya thats right, they're not even enforcing laws now.
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You're right. all those policeman who refuse to enforce immigration law in california, and refuse to work with ICE? They need to gtfo.
 
ryzorsden said:
Cops refusing to enforce the law? They should have their badges ripped off their chests immediately.
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Does that goes for those who refuse to enforce immigration laws?
 
ryzorsden said:
Cops refusing to enforce the law? They should have their badges ripped off their chests immediately.
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The law in Washington stems from the constitution of Washington State, which also reiterates the right to bear arms by the people. Washington also has a one topic requirement on initiatives code right into the constitution.

The initiative in question contains several dozen topics, in violation of the constitution of Washington State. It was thrown out by the correct court concerning such initiative challenges, but the supreme court in Seattle reinstated it, in violation of our own constitution.
The initiative infringes on the right to bear arms. It is in violation of both the U.S. Constitution (2nd amendment, which applies to all States), and the Washington constitution as well.
The initiative also constructs a government dossier on gun owners, in violation of the 4th and 5th amendments of the U.S. constitution, which applies to all States.

The sheriffs in question ARE enforcing the law by ignoring this initiative. The position of sheriff in Washington is an elected position. You cannot just rip their badges off.
 
ryzorsden said:
Police are paid by the taxpayers to do a job. Do it or GTFO.

We're not paying theses pigs to have opinions. They're not constitutional scholars they are a tool of the justice system. Do your ****ing job.
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No police officer or civilian is required to comply with an unconstitutional law.
 
ryzorsden said:
LOL well apparently they aren't even enforcing laws now.

But for me to tell them to do their jobs isn't breaking the law. It's the first amendment. The one they are supposed to protect.

Oh ya thats right, they're not even enforcing laws now.
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No sheriff is required to enforce the 1st amendment of the Constitution of the United States. That amendment does not apply to the States. It only applies to Congress.
 
Rucker61 said:
Sheriffs are elected officials, and their responsibility is to the electorate and to the Constitution. This law was enacted by popular vote. Were all of the voters who voted in favor constitutional scholars? I'd warrant that the average Washington State sheriff is much more conversant with the Constitution than the average Democratic voter. If the voters of a state voted to make homosexual sodomy a felony, would you expect sheriffs to start arresting gays?

55 of the elected sheriffs in Colorado sued the state over the Constitutionality of the 2013 gun control laws. My county sheriff acknowledged that the restriction on magazine capacity was unconstitutional and that he would not enforce it. Not only was he re-elected, the Democrats didn't even field an opponent to run against him.
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The average Democratic voter wants to destroy constitutional government and replace it with fascism by oligarchy.
 
ryzorsden said:
The law is the law. It must be enforced. Enforce it or GTFO.
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The Constitution of the United States and the constitution of Washington State is the law. It is being enforced. That is why the sheriffs are not enforcing this initiative.
 
ryzorsden said:
If that was the law, which it couldn't be because of the Civil Rights act.

The law is the law. Aren't you a law and order type? Or only when it fits your narrative?
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The Civil Rights act applies to the U.S. government, not to the States. You are making one compositional error fallacy after another. Not all laws are equal.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Some Washington sheriffs refuse to enforce new gun laws - seattlepi.com

This law looks clearly unconstitutional to me, to the point that it never should have made it to a ballot but as I keep saying we do so suck now.

I think that everyone should agree to ignore this alleged law until the courts rule.
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So you have no problem with letting police make the laws? The Police and NOT YOU decide who gets busted for what?


Where the **** is there democracy in that.

That is the epitome of the "police state."

Fore those who think this is a good thing, what happens when your police decide not to enforce the law against the guys who invaded your home?
 
TurtleDude said:
Gun banners distrust the citizens and worship government. It is a rather consistent theme.
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They don't understand the sheriffs ARE part of the government.

The government they worship is fascism by oligarchy.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Most of them also seem to be the same who rely on the government to legally steal and redistribute our money to them.
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Bingo. Socialism, whether is comes in the form of communism or fascism, can only exist by stealing wealth.
 
ryzorsden said:
The law is the law. It must be enforced. Enforce it or GTFO.
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If you say it enough times and click your heels together, it will come true.
 
Fearandloathing said:
So you have no problem with letting police make the laws?
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They are not making law. They are refusing to enforce an unconstitutional law. The constitution IS law.
Fearandloathing said:
The Police and NOT YOU decide who gets busted for what?
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Already happens. What rock have YOU been hiding under?
Fearandloathing said:
Where the **** is there democracy in that.
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The United States is not a democracy. It is a federated republic. We have constitutions.
Fearandloathing said:
That is the epitome of the "police state."
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Nope. YOU are moving goal posts around. That's a fallacy, dude.
Fearandloathing said:
Fore those who think this is a good thing, what happens when your police decide not to enforce the law against the guys who invaded your home?
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That's what the right self defense is for, dude. The police can't be everywhere at once. I have all the authority I need to dispatch them with my own gun.
 
Into the Night said:
The average Democratic voter wants to destroy constitutional government and replace it with fascism by oligarchy.
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You doing right up to that piece of stupidity...just saying....
 
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